1204 AD: What Really Happened (Crusades)

Athens News ^ | 3-9-2004 | Judith Herrin

[nopardons]

Great article. :-)

[AdmSmith]

Blam, thanks a lot for your effort in sharing your knowledge. I enjoy your posts all the time. The world would be a better place if people learn from history.

[Fedora]

Those interested in this thread might also want to check out this one:

The Real History of the Crusades

[USF]

Thanks! I'm glad you understand the danger Islam presents to world peace.

Oh, btw your friends mosque is probably out of step with mainstream Islamic thinking and the Imam might even be branded an apostate for engaging in "bidah" (innovation, see: http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=107863 ).

Its too bad Muslims don't accept the fact that nobody kills Muslims better than a militant Muslim.

The problem is, even if there are "good Muslims" out there (OK, the term is confusing, by "Good Muslim" I refer to a good person who professes to practice Islam... in reality, they are "Bad" in the Islamic sense because they do not follow all Islams intolerant ideology and the belief in the Islamic "end of days" scenario where, in an enchanted forest type scenario, trees come alive and yell "O Muslim, there is a Jew behind me! Come kill him!" ) they are the enemies of the "true Muslims" who, even if they manage to murder all 5 billion atheists, agnostics, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs etc on the planet, they are then obligated to wage jihad on their own - those they see as the bidahis.

Islam has nothing to offer but eternal killing.

[OldCorps]

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[skeeter]

Better the Turkish turban than the pope's tiara. In terms of political domination, the Byzantines preferred to maintain their own theology under Ottoman rule than to suffer union with the church of Rome and western rule.

Yeah, but who got the booty, hmm?

[BunnySlippers]

Bookmarking for tonight.

[tnlibertarian]

Istanbul was Constantinople.
Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople.
So, if you have a date in Constantinople,
She’ll be waiting in Istanbul.

[OldCorps]

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[WWTraveler]

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