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It won’t work (Same-sex Marriage)
BP News ^ | 5 Mar 2004 | Kelly Boggs

Posted on 03/07/2004 11:22:34 PM PST by Jeremiahs Call

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41 posted on 03/08/2004 1:57:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Jeremiahs Call; newgeezer
solemnize their commitment?

I think the word he's looking for is sodomize.

42 posted on 03/08/2004 2:00:28 PM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: King Prout; walden
10%??? Oh, cripes - you are citing the TOTALLY EXPLODED Kinsey studies.
Much more recent and authentic studies in England, France, and Germany indicate the 2% ballpark range.
I do not have links to these studies, but someone here surely must.
LJ? Onyx? Got data?






No, but everything I've read, confirms your ballpark number of 2%. They're vociferous enough to make us believe they're 10-15% but that's not a factual number.


43 posted on 03/08/2004 2:35:00 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Timothy McVeigh)
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To: Jeremiahs Call
The pastor is exactly right. It's about FORCING acceptance and "celebration".
44 posted on 03/08/2004 3:06:09 PM PST by jimt
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To: Travis McGee
"The bottom line, the end game, is that homosexual activists want our children."

Exactly my fear - why is it that people don't see that??? - I hate being ridiculed for the fact that this issue really bothers me. I get the old standy "how does this affect you?" The very future of my children is at stake. Something personal and scary - two of "them" have my neices and nephews as foster children. And no-one raises an eyebrow that my 5 yr old neice now looks and acts like a boy. "It's just a phase" These women can't have their own children so they snatch my extended family!! Oh, and lock us out, too - don't want any moral influence, you know...
45 posted on 03/08/2004 7:41:10 PM PST by momfirst ((just venting some steam again))
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To: momfirst; onyx
If these aren't the end times, God owes Soddom and Gommorah a big apology.
46 posted on 03/08/2004 8:34:05 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Correct. Must it get worse for God to show His displeasure once again?
47 posted on 03/08/2004 8:54:19 PM PST by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold.)
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To: Travis McGee
For sure.
48 posted on 03/08/2004 8:58:24 PM PST by dalebert
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To: dalebert

What I have always felt, and believed is that God's love is all inclusive. Nevermind if homosexuality is a choice or genetic, it does not matter. Picking and choosing who one loves and hates is a characteristic of kids on a playground, not of a forgiving God who is capable of creating whole universes. I prefer to give Him more credit than to associate juvenile characteristics to His love. I do understand that some of you worry about your children; how homosexuality will affect them. For me, I want nothing more for my children than to show them how to be kind and generous people. What kind of precedent do I set if they see that I hate someone because of how they live their life? I'm not saying that those of you opposed to homosexuality are bad parents. In truth, the fact that you care enough to have a hand in what your children learn is proof enough that your child is better off than most. What I am saying is this: In a time where there are those who hate America and all it represents, where there are those who hate Bush for sending us to war, where there are those who hate Democrats for being too liberal, where there are those who hate each other based on race, religion, and political views, I have nothing left but love. Is there a more powerful message than to show my children that I can still love my fellow man when so much hatred clouds the world around me?
I will not post on this forum again, since I know that my views are unwelcome. I hope my message does not invoke hatred, but rather contemplation. God Bless.


49 posted on 05/26/2004 4:21:21 PM PDT by godislove42
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To: godislove42
I will not post on this forum again, since I know that my views are unwelcome. I hope my message does not invoke hatred, but rather contemplation. God Bless.

To disagree with you or homosexual marriage evidently labels one a "hater".

God is rather clear about hating the sin and loving the sinner. Enablers do nobody any favors.

To embrace homosexual "marriage" is not a Godly act, at least not the God of my Bible. Hating homosexuals is likewise not a Godly act, hating the sin is.

Invoking God to defend that which God calls an abomination is disingenuous.

Regards.

50 posted on 05/26/2004 4:29:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: godislove42
I hope you will at least return to read my post. I don't know what made you think hate is involved in this. The institution of marriage between a man and a woman is supposed to sacred but this has been eroded over the years and means little to a lot of people. I am still looking at the idea of a civil union but not sure what it should be. Surely you can understand the confusion and rejection concerning this matter. Think how much more tied up the courts will be with disputes and divorces. I have gay friends and on cousin who is gay and most have been with the same partner for a long time but do trade partners more than anyone else I know. I also lost a cousin to aides. I can't discuss it here but believe me I do not hate gays. There is a big difference between hate and being against gay marriage. I try to save my hate for people like Saddam and bin Laden. Surely you don't care if I hate them. He he! Lighten up.I pray God blesses every day of your life.
51 posted on 05/26/2004 5:18:12 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: jwalsh07

Reading my previous post again, I would like to apologize to those at this forum. I know you fear prejudice from those who disagree with your stance, and my post only confirmed your beliefs. I did not mean to sound so righteous, I simply wished to provide another opinion. Although we do not agree, I owe your opinions more respect than I showed.


52 posted on 05/26/2004 5:52:08 PM PDT by godislove42
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To: jwalsh07

Reading my previous post again, I would like to apologize to those at this forum. I know you fear prejudice from those who disagree with your stance, and my post only confirmed your beliefs. I did not mean to sound so righteous, I simply wished to provide another opinion. Although we do not agree, I owe your opinions more respect than I showed.


53 posted on 05/26/2004 5:53:15 PM PDT by godislove42
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To: godislove42

You don't owe me anything. Throwing the word hater around simply tarnishes the thrower. Perhaps you owe yourself an apology.


54 posted on 05/26/2004 5:55:09 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: godislove42
And by the way, God is capitalised by the worlds major religions and not capitalised by those who wish to get across a childish point.

Perhaps you forgot, perhaps you're missing the "Caps Lock" key or perhaps you are simply a pretend Christian.

We'll know which when you contact or don't contact your host and ask him to change your handle to reflect a capital G.

55 posted on 05/26/2004 5:58:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I realize I'm a hothead. I accidentally stumbled into this forum on another web search, and reading it, I stupidly type-cast everyone in this room. I feel foolish for being so quick to judge. I'm sorry for wasting your time. Thank you for teaching me a lesson in looking before I leap.


56 posted on 05/26/2004 6:00:42 PM PDT by godislove42
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To: godislove42

Pathetic pablum I'm afraid is what you are posted, from beginning to end. I say that as a supporter of gay marriage, provided it is enacted via the public square exercising its will, rather than by judicial fiat. You cannot seem to understand that those who disagree with your views (particularly the spread the love, and love everybody stuff), are not ipso facto "haters." To the extent you are on my "team," I would have to characterize you as ballast.


57 posted on 05/26/2004 7:38:04 PM PDT by Torie
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