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Bush 9/11 ads: WHO ARE THESE ANGRY 9/11 VICTIMS???
3/5/04 | Timeout

Posted on 03/05/2004 3:10:16 PM PST by Timeout

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To: user
(You're a fast learner on html.)

...these security measures were already supposed to be in place.

Which security measures?

101 posted on 03/06/2004 8:42:34 AM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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"There's no consensus around this, but for the most part, 9/11 families are very sensitive to someone using images of our loved one's death for their own ends," she said.

I really hate to admit this, but I felt the same way after seeing that ad.

102 posted on 03/06/2004 8:46:18 AM PST by New Horizon
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I don't know if that's true. You describe a progressive security plan which ultimately included the shooting down of a passenger airliner. I've never read anywhere that such an action was included in any NORAD plans prior to 9/11. Even if it were, it would only have been with presidential approval.

Regardless. Think about the timeline. You say "the FAA immediately contacts NORAD". Well, a lot would happen before that. A plane disappears from radar screens because its transponder has been deactivated. Controllers start trying to figure out why. Trying to raise the pilot. Asking other control sites to look at their screens, trying to figure out what's going on. From the start, they're following procedures and a checklist of possible explanations. (You know they initially thought the plane might have crashed...anyone would.) They didn't know where the planes were...until it was too late.

Unknown to them, another plane drops off the screen somewhere else. Controllers don't know about the first incident, so they go thru the same routine. As for informing the FAA, each group of controllers would think they were dealing with a single incident.

Eventually, at the FAA, reports are coming in from all over the Eastern seaboard. It would take them some time to assess what they were hearing. I'm not talking HOURS. Just think about it. Each call would take time to report what the caller had observed from beginning to end....they couldn't just do a "brain dump" for the person at the receiving end. I'm just saying it takes precious time for each of these sequences to unwind. All these people were dealing with the unthinkable. Give them a break that they didn't figure it out in the first few minutes.

104 posted on 03/06/2004 9:22:35 AM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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105 posted on 03/06/2004 9:44:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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Ah, it ain't over until the cat lady sings?
106 posted on 03/06/2004 9:58:44 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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LOL!
107 posted on 03/06/2004 10:11:24 AM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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bump
108 posted on 03/06/2004 2:25:10 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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Interesting.. read this latter
109 posted on 03/07/2004 5:52:11 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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WILL THE NY TIMES GET IT RIGHT AND DO THE FOLLOWUP STORY?
110 posted on 03/07/2004 5:55:56 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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