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Judge convicts three U.S. citizens on terror conspiracy counts
AP | 3/04/04 | MATTHEW BARAKAT

Posted on 03/04/2004 1:14:22 PM PST by kattracks

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To: FL_engineer
"the LEADER [Abdur-Raheem] of these jihadists is ALSO being a black Gulf I war veteran"

I'm glad you mentioned he was black; otherwise we may never have found out.

Question: what do you call a white Gulf I war veteran jihadist?

21 posted on 03/04/2004 6:03:10 PM PST by be-baw
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To: agitator
Any defendant can decline a trial by Jury.
22 posted on 03/04/2004 6:06:56 PM PST by Texasforever (When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
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To: Grampa Dave; knighthawk; Libertarianize the GOP; JohnathanRGalt; *JIHAD IN AMERICA
Thanks for the links.

Guess these guys are out of play for awhile.
23 posted on 03/04/2004 7:00:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: blam
Vigilante law: String'em Up!

I'm with you on that one my friend.

24 posted on 03/04/2004 7:16:18 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: kattracks
Three American Muslims accused of undergoing paramilitary training in hopes of joining up with the Taliban were convicted Thursday of conspiring to support terrorism."

And the U.S.-based muslim terrorist fronts don't CAIR to say anything.

25 posted on 03/04/2004 7:52:13 PM PST by tubavil
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To: sultan88
This must be the talked about a lot there in VA, huh Sultan? First I've heard of it.
26 posted on 03/04/2004 8:59:33 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: Calpernia
Local democrat mayor overruled the judge and ordered their immediate release. Offers free same sex marriage licenses as reparation for inconvenience.
27 posted on 03/04/2004 9:06:26 PM PST by TonyM
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To: kattracks

! ! ! Attention President Bush ! ! !

This is how it's done under the Constitution - not by holding a US citizen incommunicado for over a year.

The system works! But, it can't work until you get out of the way and let it.

 

28 posted on 03/04/2004 10:27:20 PM PST by Action-America (Best President: Reagan * Worst President: Klinton * Worst GOP President: Dubya)
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To: Piranha
Three more names for John Kerry to put into the VP pool.

ROLFLOL if it wasn't so true.

29 posted on 03/04/2004 10:35:13 PM PST by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: Action-America
This is how it's done under the Constitution

President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus in 1861. Are you sure Lincoln wasn't the worst GOP President? Admit it you're a DU infiltrator...heavy accent on the traitor.

30 posted on 03/04/2004 10:39:47 PM PST by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Bushbot.)
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To: kattracks
>>used paintball games in 2000 and 2001 to train for holy war around the globe

They got arrested for that????
31 posted on 03/05/2004 3:29:55 AM PST by The Raven
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To: kattracks
An excerpt from the Post may answer some questions you all have.

SNIP

Most of the men were charged with participating in a conspiracy that involved their support for Lashkar-i-Taiba, a militant group fighting to drive India from the disputed region of Kashmir. Defense attorneys said they would consider filing appeals after studying Brinkema's 75-page decision.

Defense attorneys waived the right to a jury trial so that Brinkema could decide the case. They argued that a Northern Virginia jury could not fairly evaluate Muslims accused of terrorism-related crimes.

The lawyers had presented their clients as harmless young men who played paintball for fun and were targeted because of their Muslim faith.

Because the three defendants also were convicted of weapons charges, they face the likelihood of lengthy prison terms when they are sentenced in June.

Bernard Grimm, Khan's attorney, protested that his client faces a sentence "in excess of 100 years, and he's never gotten a parking ticket." Khan faces the stiffest sentence of those found guilty so far. He is the only member of the group convicted of conspiracy to wage war against the United States and to assist Afghanistan's former Taliban rulers.

Another defendant, Seifullah Chapman, 31, of Alexandria, faces a sentence of up to 60 years, said his attorney, John Zwerling. Chapman was convicted of conspiring to support Lashkar-i-Taiba and of using arms in connection with a crime of violence.

The third man convicted yesterday, Hammad Abdur-Raheem, 35, of Falls Church, was found guilty of charges involving weapons and support for Lashkar-i-Taiba. Unlike the other two, he did not attend a training camp for the anti-India group in Pakistan, but he was accused of helping train his friends at home. His attorney, William Cummings, said he had not calculated Abdur-Raheem's possible sentence.

In brief comments from the bench, Brinkema said she did not believe Chapman and Abdur-Raheem when they testified that they were unaware of Lashkar-i-Taiba's violent acts and anti-American nature. Their testimony amounted to "deliberate ignorance" of what was going on with the armed group, Brinkema said. Khan did not take the stand in the case.

End of excerpt. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

32 posted on 03/05/2004 3:38:35 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Lazamataz
"You can sometimes opt for a bench trial, in which the Judge will render a decision of guilt or innocence."

Ah, so it seems I owe AP reporters an appology for calling them imbeciles when instead they were just too lazy to report the circumstances of the trial.

33 posted on 03/05/2004 7:21:22 AM PST by DannyTN
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