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Bill Clinton could be just the ticket for Kerry (BARF)
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| 3/2/04
Posted on 03/02/2004 9:55:52 PM PST by knak
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To: upchuck
12th Amendment. "...no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President, shall be eligible to that of Vice-President.."
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:10:21 PM PST
by
stylin19a
(Is it vietnam yet ?)
To: knak
BTW I love the idea. Think about this folks, Of all the candidates that The sink master campaigned for how many won the election? I think only 1. Now nothing brings out the Republican base like the name Clinton. Here is the beauty, Clinton raises millions and it all gets spent on advertizing and then the candidate loses. That is just that much more money they will not be able to raise the next time.
To: knak
People are longing for Clinton's strong (bubble) economy? Don't make me post it AGAIN:
CLINTON ECONOMY VS. BUSH ECONOMY
During Clinton's "Great Economy" back in 1996:
Unemployment was at 5.6%
Average wage was $11.82/hr.
Inflation was 3.3%
During George W. Bush's "miserable failure" economy of 2004:
Unemployment is at 5.6%
Average wage is $15.40/hr.
Inflation is 1.9%
So 5.6% unemployment is lousy today, because a Republican is in the White House? Funny, back in 1996, CNN said that 5.6% unemployment was LOW! Amazing how the spin changes, depending on who is in power.
The Dems, paleo-protectionists and the lamestream media don't want us to see the true picture, and realize that the Bush economy is pretty good, all things (terrorist attacks, war, etc.) considered.
Find out the rest, in CNN's own words, at this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087145/posts
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:11:02 PM PST
by
Choose Ye This Day
(I've got a fever...and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL! --rock legend, Bruce Dickinson)
To: knak
So much for the constitutional obstacles. What an idiot. How did this thing ever get published? The Constitution DOES prevent Bill Clinton from being elected VP.
Of course, the clear language of the Constitution hasn't stopped a lot of things over the last 70 years.
To: knak
Man, would I be watching my back...
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:11:35 PM PST
by
scott7278
("FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat." -- Jim Robinson, 2/01/04)
To: knak
The Constitution also clearly states:
No person who is ineligible for the office of the President shall be eligible for the office of the Vice President.
In other words, it's totally bogus. And the moron who authored this for the Houston Chronicle didn't bother to read far enough.
Neither, apparently, did his editor.
The Mainstream Media:
IGNORANCE ON PARADE
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:12:17 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: stylin19a
writer of this article is a professor of law at NY University Kinda scary that's he's teaching future lawyers isn't it?
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:12:23 PM PST
by
hattend
To: So Cal Rocket
Actually, Clinton could serve two more years. Too bad it's not two years in prison.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:12:59 PM PST
by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: knak
I can see Hillary angling for job but not Bill. In any case if she accepts, I don't expect Kerry to live long if he wins.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:13:10 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: knak
Dick Cheney would rip that silly pout right off Spot's splotchy face. I can't remember the last time I heard anybody come accross as solid, assured, and in command of the facts and truth as Dick Cheney.
That "I feel your pain" Oprah crap doesn't work anymore, now that real terror has been unleashed in the world.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:13:52 PM PST
by
Choose Ye This Day
(I've got a fever...and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL! --rock legend, Bruce Dickinson)
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To: knak
Consider this. Lyndon Johnson served less than two years after JFK was killed. That made him eligible for two of his own elected terms.
What if Kerry had Clinton as VP. For two years, he wouldn't have to worry about having an "accident." Or, would he? Let's suppose he has an accident. The VP Clinton could serve for two years. What if he ascends to the highest office but names Hillary as president. She then names him as VP. She serves a certain amount of time, then she resigns and he can take over with less than two years remaining in the term. He then names her VP and she runs on her own as a sitting VP. Machiavellian? No, Clintonesque.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:17:58 PM PST
by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: upchuck
"If true, this entire article is specious. Can you supply more info or a link or something?" See Constitution, U.S., Amendment 12, which closes as follows:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of the Vice President of the United States.
Period. End of story. Pointy-headed liberal law professor full of crap, up to his eyebrows.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:19:50 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: doug from upland
okay I dont trust the clintons in anything .... but one thing. Power, your idea is clintonesk indeed however, do you see any of them resigning power to anyone? Nope. never, So it is all silliness.
To: Stallone
My stupid, ignorant dumb mother in law loves to say, "Bill Clinton was an economic genius." She doesn't know how to spell "economic". I can spell it but don't understand it. And that's my point. How can anyone stupid enough to be a democrat know what it takes to be an economic genius?
To: stylin19a
Since when does the constitution mean anything to the democrats? If Clinton thought he could be president again, he'd do it. But I don't think he could win again.
But don't you love how these people think Bill should be angry that W said he'd restore dignity to the White House? It really doesn't bother them what went on inside the Oval Office.
To: knak; doug from upland; Baynative; MNLDS; goldstategop; hattend; okie01; scott7278; ...
hmmmm....... I have been swearing it'll be Cleland (see my previous comments pasted below), but this Clinton idea is diabolical enough to look like a realistic threat. It is more plausible than Hillary as VP, because, hey, what else is Bill gonna do anyway? He's a preacher without a pulpit at the moment.
And I'm not so sure the constitutional issue is as clear as my fellow FReepers seem to think. The question is whether someone who is ineligible to be ELECTED president again is "constitutionally ineligible to the office of President." Bill Clinton is, after all, a 35+ yr. old native citizen, etc. If you can't be ELECTED president, does that mean you can't possibly BECOME president? At the very least, there's an ambiguity there... which an aggressive candidate could try to exploit through the federal courts. But hopefully the Supremes would put a stop to any such nonsense.
So for now I'm sticking with my Cleland prediction (see below). Especially because the Bill Clinton scenario would give me nightmares until November.
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It's gonna be Max Cleland. I predicted this earlier tonight at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1089521/posts (see posts 7 & 21):
Why all the Kerry-promoting quotes from "former Senator Max Cleland" lately? He will be Kerry's VP candidate. Just picture it. A pair of wounded "war heroes" to attack the "wartime president." Don't forget -- you heard it here first.
It would be a bigger headline-getter and buzz-generator than Lieberman in 2000... nearly as much buzz as "first black candidate" or "first woman presidential candidate." All other issues would be sidelined for weeks.
Feb. 12 Boston Globe: National security credentials are the most important assets that the Democratic presidential front-runner would use to choose a running mate, these [Kerry] aides said.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:27:10 PM PST
by
AB AB AB
(how do I do this, exactly?)
To: So Cal Rocket
"If this idiot had read the WHOLE constitution, he would have found this in the 12th Amendment:
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Being that he is a Marxist, you do not think that 'Prof.' Gillers can be bothered with actually READING the entire Constitution, do you?
He's too busy lighting up candles at his shrine to the 'Maximum Leader' Fidel, while drawing deeply on a 'Cheech-n-Chong-sized' 'GANJA STICK'!
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:28:13 PM PST
by
Al Simmons
(Proud BushBot since '94!)
To: AB AB AB
Clelend brings nothing to the ticket at all.
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:31:53 PM PST
by
Texasforever
(When democrats attack it is called campaigning)
To: AB AB AB
"If you can't be ELECTED president, does that mean you can't possibly BECOME president?" The language is clear. The Constitution doesn't say "elected". It says you can't "be". If you are ineligible to be President, you are ineligible to even be appointed Vice President. You cannot be put in a position where you might accede to the larger office by any circumstance.
But would that stop the Clintons and the libs? Of course not. When did any law or constitutional provision have any meaning to them, whatsoever?
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posted on
03/02/2004 10:34:20 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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