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Women wonder if accusing Schwarzenegger of inappropriate sexual behavior was worthwhile
sfgate ^ | 2-28-04

Posted on 02/28/2004 5:47:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Indy Pendance
"I went through a lot of emotional upheaval, and it really just wasn't necessary," said Tamee Smith, who said Schwarzenegger grabbed her breast nearly two decades ago. "Nothing came of it. And I look at it now and I think, 'What was the point?"

Maybe if Tamee had filed a complaint nearly two decades ago, right after Arnold supposedly grabbed her breasts, she could have avoided going through the emotional upheaval she did by having publicly brought up the incident just days prior to the recall election, and then not getting the sympathetic reaction from the media and the voters that she had hoped for.

21 posted on 02/28/2004 7:04:58 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: demkicker
To go with that "N", gimme an "I", Gimme a "P", Gimme another "P", an "L" and an "E". What's that spell?

Janet Jackson.

22 posted on 02/28/2004 7:06:35 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Uafásach an chumhacht, gan taise an tóraíocht.)
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I complained when it happened....I am rubbing begay on my husbands sore muscles. I'm proud of him. Lucyredboots, Laura's sister.
23 posted on 02/28/2004 7:13:40 PM PST by Lauratealeaf (God bless our troops and their Commander in Chief, President George W. Bush)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Harwell said she does not regret coming forward but had hoped that discussing Schwarzenegger's behavior would trigger a public discussion about sexual harassment. Now she fears that is not happening.

Were these women prompted to 'public discussion' when Paula reported. . .Kathleen reported; Juanita reported reported the activities of Bill Clinton?

Were they outraged. . .did they even care?

Would bet they voted for Clinton a second time as well.

24 posted on 02/28/2004 7:34:17 PM PST by cricket
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To: Indy Pendance
She either wanted a pay day or was still p**sed that Arnie didn't do anything else.

I still say that the biggest story here is what hasn't been reported. Arnie is a good looking guy, well connected and influential in show business and a multi-millionaire, yet a little grope 20 years ago is the worst that surfaced. Hell, Willie got it wet just sitting at his desk! That Arnie didn't get a little on the side in all the years in Hollywood is unbelievable!

In the heart of every female is a couple of stories about some male that did/said something inappropriate years ago. They are mostly wishful thinking by the female and incidents that the male in question wouldn't remember in a 100 years. This honey was nothing more than a political dirty trick that didn't work for the dems.

25 posted on 02/28/2004 7:37:06 PM PST by Tacis
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To: Indy Pendance
Linnea Harwell, who alleged that Schwarzenegger made unwanted sexual advances toward her in 1998, said... "Our society doesn't seem to care anymore," she told The Sacramento Bee.

(yawn) That's not true, Linnea....zzzzzzzzz...

26 posted on 02/28/2004 7:41:06 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Lauratealeaf
Lucyredboots, you are wonderful and your husband is wonderful. That's the way to handle it! I love it when a man stands up for his wife. Brings them both respect and honor.
27 posted on 02/28/2004 7:41:37 PM PST by squarebarb ('The stars put out their pale opinions, one by one...' Thomas Merton)
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To: Indy Pendance
Well, ladies, I guess you can blame Clinton. He's the one who made "groping" no big deal.
28 posted on 02/28/2004 7:43:29 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: judgeandjury
"I went through a lot of emotional upheaval, and it really just wasn't necessary," said Tamee Smith, who said Schwarzenegger grabbed her breast nearly two decades ago. "Nothing came of it. And I look at it now and I think, 'What was the point?"

Hey Tamee. Go to James Carville and Paul Begalla. They have a Hundred dollar Bill for you if you don't mind it being dragged through a trailer park.
29 posted on 02/28/2004 7:45:12 PM PST by RedMonqey (Its is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong)
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To: Indy Pendance
She did get a semi-apology from Arnold.
30 posted on 02/28/2004 7:46:17 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Indy Pendance
"Our society doesn't seem to care anymore," she told The Sacramento Bee.

And you know who you have to thank for that, honey?
31 posted on 02/28/2004 7:47:07 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: meenie
We must have missed the memo that a politician's character and personal behavior can no longer be separated from the office, and that sexual harassment is a grave sin. I was still going by the Clinton-era guidelines. It seems the Clarence Thomas rule, that any alleged sexual harassment, no matter how old, is such a serious affair that guilt must be presumed before innocence, has been reinstated. Of course, this is all subject to change, depending on what might surface regarding Lurch in the future...
32 posted on 02/28/2004 7:59:49 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Indy Pendance
Maybe it was because they were full of crap and people knew it. Why else would these allegations come out just before the recall? If he was doing these things they could have reported it long ago, then there would at least be a record of a complaint filed against him.
33 posted on 02/28/2004 8:18:37 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: staytrue
""Nothing came of it. And I look at it now and I think, 'What was the point?""

Translation: "I thought I could ruin Arnold's political career and save the career of a corrupt, immoral incumbent socialist Democrat, but I guess I was wrong"
34 posted on 02/28/2004 8:20:39 PM PST by raloxk
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To: Tacis
While I agree with most of your post, your final paragraph was appalling and smacked of ignorance on the topic.

I was sexually harassed on the job. My boss' business partner decided walk up behind me and grab my breasts while I was at the coffee maker. It sure as hell wasn't funny, amusing, or invited. This creepo was older than my father. When I told my father what happened, he was ready to get roll up his sleeves and beat the snot of out the guy. I offered my resignation and left at the end of the obligatory two weeks.

Getting groped is an obvious form of harassment. I don't consider compliments or whistles of appreciation harassment when, in a given situation, people are equals (such as walking on the street, back in my youth at clubs, etc.) But physically grabbing intimate parts of people when express permission has not been given is harassing, and out-of-line comments in the workplace are harnessing.

Back when I was in college, I was a manager at a fast food restaurant. My husband, who was still my boyfriend at the time, decided to visit me at work. I had just finished opening up a new drawer when I turned to a customer and asked, "How can I help you?"

With a particularly smarmy tone, he replied, "Hey honey, why don't you dance naked on the counter and spill milk all over yourself?" His buddy thought this was hilarious.

I was stunned. "Excuse me, what did you say?"

The idiot repeated himself.

Now I was mortified, ill-prepared to reply to such an outrageous statement, until my eyes caught Tony standing behind them, working his jaw like he was crunching teeth.

To my supreme satisfaction, I offered, "Why don't you ask my boyfriend about that? He's standing right behind you."

The guy whirled around, looked up at my strapping, tattooed, dangerously smoldering husband, and nearly urinated on himself. He started stammering and stuttering and offering hasty apologies, while my future husband inquired - in a deep voice that could never be construed as joking - whether he should take both guys outside so they wouldn't bleed on my floor. He was dead serious, and I knew, based on friends' accounts of his tumultuous youth, that he could do it.

Assuring him that wouldn't be necessary, I repeated the question and they contritely placed their orders.

My future husband got a big hug and kiss for coming to my "rescue" and I vowed to myself never to tolerate that kind of remark again.

35 posted on 02/28/2004 8:35:34 PM PST by TheWriterInTexas (With God's Grace, All Things Are Possible)
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To: RedMonqey
"Hey Tamee. Go to James Carville and Paul Begalla. They have a Hundred dollar Bill for you if you don't mind it being dragged through a trailer park."

Heh-heh-heh -- wickedly funny.

36 posted on 02/28/2004 8:43:10 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Indy Pendance
I may be wrong but I would venture a guess that these same 16 women were appalled and angry at the women who accused Clinton of molesting and raping them.
37 posted on 02/28/2004 9:28:27 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Busted!

Linnea Harwell, who alleged that Schwarzenegger made unwanted sexual advances toward her in 1998, said the fact the groping allegations had little impact on the election was disheartening.

Anonymous Associated Press Writer Releases Disinformation On Schwarzenegger

An anonymous Associated Press staff writer today (Feb 29, 9:35am) released a "hit piece" on California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, trying to "stir the pot" on the politically motivated groping allegations that were lodged against him just prior to the recent recall election.

The anonymous AP staffer claimed that "Linnea Harwell... alleged that Schwarzenegger made unwanted sexual advances toward her in 1998", and that the governor later dismissed the numerous allegations which surfaced close to the election as "old news".

Schwarzenegger married Maria Shriver in early 1986, which would have had Schwarzenegger cheating on his wife more than 12 years after their marriage.

However, Linnea Harwell actually worked with Schwarzenegger in 1988, on the set of the movie Twins, fifteen years before Schwartzenegger's gubernatorial run, not five years.

Why the anonymous AP staffer included the bogus date is a mystery, but it is known that the date was inserted within the crucial first three sentences of the hit piece, which the casual reader is most likely to read.

At this time, in the absence of a correction or retraction, the bogus "news" article continues to spread over the Net.

38 posted on 02/29/2004 4:06:40 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: TheWriterInTexas
The guy whirled around, looked up at my strapping, tattooed, dangerously smoldering husband, and nearly urinated on himself. He started stammering and stuttering and offering hasty apologies, while my future husband inquired - in a deep voice that could never be construed as joking - whether he should take both guys outside so they wouldn't bleed on my floor. He was dead serious, and I knew, based on friends' accounts of his tumultuous youth, that he could do it.

Would you like some napkins and a Depends with your order, sir? ;-)

39 posted on 02/29/2004 5:58:12 PM PST by an amused spectator (articulating AAS' thoughts on FR since 1997)
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