Social Security won't accept SF marriage licenses as ID

Sac Bee ^ | 2/27/04 | AP - San Francisco

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

OUT-FREEPING-STANDING!!!!!!!

[little jeremiah]

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So SF marriage licenses aren't valid after all.

Well, isn't that just a crying shame.

[scripter]

I'm not sure if the article below ever made it into FR...

I just don't understand why SF's mayor hasn't been arrested when he has so clearly violated the laws of the state of Cal. Do you? Does anyone?

You may find this interesting:

Same-sex wedding officiant 'arrested'

From the above link:

Upset by San Francisco's extraordinary decision to issue licenses to same-sex couples, a man [Jake Olthof, 37, from nearby Santa Cruz] tried to make a citizen's arrest on a 75-year-old volunteer who said he had performed 30 to 50 ceremonies since Monday.

...

After being bounced between the Police and Sheriff's Departments, Olthof finally was informed the citizen's arrest fell under the jurisdiction of the Sheriff.

The Sheriff's Department's position, however, is that the marriages are legal.

At least somebody tried to do something about it, but law enforcement failed to enforce the law.

[Devil_Anse]

Hee hee hee hee hee...

For those who really wish to fight this war, to "win", definitively stopping this faux marriage business, may I suggest the most formidable weapon ever known to man: bureaucracy.

Bureaucracy can kill something when the most dangerous weapons of mass destruction have no effect. I think George Orwell knew this: a bureaucrat has powers of destruction that a soldier could only dream of!

[Devil_Anse]

Bwahahaha!!

The noble Homosexual Rights movement, stopped cold by... bureaucracy.

And as a further delicious irony, let's also remember how government bureaucracies have more than their share of homosexuals among their employees. Heh heh heh!

[KevinDavis]

I smell a lawsuit coming.

[.38sw]

I had heard somewhere (on the radio, but don't remember the specifics) that the county clerks aren't filing the licenses and recording the marriages because the licenses had been altered, and state law says that marriage is between one man and one woman. So just getting the license and exchanging vows doesn't mean that you are legally "married". This is going to get more interesting.

[international american]

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[devane617]

"What's stopping one addle-brained, publicity-hungry Social Security employee from going ahead and processing these?

My thoughts exactly. Looks like the plan from the left is to throw everything to the courts where they have a foothold as they do in academia.

[kabar]

The reason the Social Security won't accept SF Gay marriage is due to the Defense of Marriage Act. Specifically, the DOMA contains the following clause:

"7. Definition of 'marriage' and 'spouse'

"In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife."

What I find remarkable about this entire discussion on gay marriage is the fact that the Federal Government needs a definition of marriage to admimister federal programs such as Social Security, federal pensions, survivior benefits etc. It is not just a states' rights issue.

The danger lies in the courts overruling DOMA as being unconstitutional, which is why a Consitutional amendment may be necessary to end this issue once and for all.

[kabar]

See post #50

[kabar]

All it takes is one dimwit president giving an executive order, and those lucky SF folks get SS benefits.

If he did, he would be violating the law of the land relative to the administration of federal programs, i.e., DOMA. See post #50.

[seegars]

Once again!

[Graymatter]

Clue me in. When two people on Soc Sec marry, don't they lose the lesser check and just receive one?

[hattend]

Don't mess with Patricia Madrid, the other shoe hasn't dropped yet.

I hope she has more gravitas than Lockyer.

[dougherty]

I hope you are all happy now, you insensitive, intolerant bigots! >sarcasm<

You know, I am against gay marriage but I do love the show QEFTSG. I occassionally visit a messageboard for the show and until recently only the show was discussed and not politics. Not anymore! The gay activists have invaded and turned it into their personal political activist group. Now all they do is bitch and moan how *intolerant*, *insensitive*, *racist*, and *hateful* conservatives are. Yet it*s perfectly fine for them to talk about how much they hate Bush and conservatives and even the Mel Gibson movie, The Passion (which they haven*t even seen!). No, I don*t think I*ll be visiting that lion*s den again as you cannot reason with them. They've ruined it just as they're trying to turn the definition of marriage around for their own selfigh agenda.