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Homosexuality Avoidable, Doctor Tells Parents
San Francisco Faith: The Bay Areas Lay Catholic Newspaper. ^ | Dr. Joseph Nicolosi

Posted on 02/26/2004 3:03:45 PM PST by Jaysun

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To: BykrBayb
Why thank you so much for your opinion on the piece. Although it is different from mine, it is much nicer to have one's opinion stated than to insult others by stating they did not read the piece.
It is like a car wreck. One can ask 12 different people what was seen and one will get 12 different stories.

You see it from your perspective and I see it from mine. I homeschool and know many homeschooled children. I see it from that point.

Although we do not agree with each other, it's nice to see civility.

81 posted on 02/26/2004 9:29:59 PM PST by netmilsmom (Don't put a question mark where God put a period.)
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To: 537 Votes
The question would be, why did he focus so much on homeschooling??
He eludes to the fact that parents of homeschoolers have to drive their kids for socialization. To believe that homeschooling parents do not do that is so NEA.
82 posted on 02/26/2004 9:33:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (Don't put a question mark where God put a period.)
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To: DoctorMichael
Hmmmmmm......Interesting.
I always thought it had to do with basic potty training and the avoidance/acceptance of feces.


LOL! I thought that the rejection of feces and traumatic early potty training experiences made serial killers out of otherwise normal people.
83 posted on 02/26/2004 10:15:00 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: DannyTN
In rereading the article what he does is insinuates early on that homeschoolers have a special concern.

He doesn't insinuate that - he comes right out and says it: "To begin, I would say that I think home-schooled children have a particular vulnerability for a number of reasons. The primary reason, especially for the boy (and I'll be focusing primarily on boys), is that it isolates him from his peers."

To me, that isn't an attack. It's an observation and an inherently true statement.

But it has the feel of an attack on homeschoolers. You read it and you get the impression he is linking the two. Otherwise, why even bring homeschooling up.

I think that he explains the reason that he brings up homeschooling when he says, "In fact, I'm working right now with a number of parents who are concerned about symptoms what we call pre-homosexual symptoms or gender-identity confusion and a number of these parents are homeschooling these children. The problem that they all complain about is that their son does not have access to boys his age and cannot participate in the kinds of ordinary activities of boys, like sports and sleepovers and just getting together and playing. I think that's a critical factor."
84 posted on 02/26/2004 10:25:24 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Are you Catholic?

Protestant
85 posted on 02/26/2004 10:35:05 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: BykrBayb
Am I supposed to agree with you because Jaysun agreed with you?

yes. (wink)
86 posted on 02/26/2004 10:37:00 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: nmh
Me:That "sweeping generalization just happens to be TRUE!

100% of homosexuals were abused? Preposterous.

And there are plenty of male survivors of abuse (and low identity) who did not turn homosexual.

87 posted on 02/26/2004 10:49:56 PM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: Styria
I'm not strongly masculine and it doesn't bother me. I don't recall having much identification with my father when I was little, or older for that matter. I'm into fantasy, but it's internal. I tend to identify with female characters and even have some in an online roleplaying game.
It's an interesting article, but I'm not homosexual and am not at risk for it either.


Thanks for your input. I think that his point is more along the lines of the "not all Pagans are Wiccans, but all Wiccans are Pagans" train of thought. So while an absence of male influence doesn't guarantee homosexuality, most homosexuals lacked male influence. I think that his theory is sound. In fact, I've decided to take extra precautions against homosexuality with my boy. You know, hurl things at him while he's not looking, occasionally drop him, randomly thump him in the head, and so on.
88 posted on 02/26/2004 10:57:00 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: Jaysun
This home schooler thinks the article is excellent and, as a mother of sons, I thank the author for the heads-up.

He was very affirming of our parenting choices and made a point to say that we are typically more vigilant than the average parent.

Considering his audience, and taking all his comments in context of the whole, I cannot find any reason to feel the slightest bit offended.
89 posted on 02/26/2004 11:04:25 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (My two cents... and likely worth about half of that ;)
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To: BykrBayb
Thank you for a voice of reason! Boy, I sure hope the several knee-jerk reactions coming from people who did not read the article are not the people teaching their own children, that would be sad, so sad.
90 posted on 02/26/2004 11:04:57 PM PST by Unassuaged
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To: bluegrass
did he not make a distinction between conservative "Catholic" men group joining vs. liberal men.

Homosexuality was originally considered a psychological problem, until politics strong armed the Psych groups...
91 posted on 02/26/2004 11:10:13 PM PST by hmong
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To: woofie
I cannot believe you said "Is it that time of the month" --- If you lack the decency to be ashamed of yourself, I will do it for you. I hope you do not talk that way in front of children. Maybe FR is not the place for you.
92 posted on 02/26/2004 11:14:17 PM PST by Unassuaged
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To: Trinity_Tx
This home schooler thinks the article is excellent and, as a mother of sons, I thank the author for the heads-up.

That's also what I thought about the article. While I think that the words "fair" and "offended" should be stricken from the English language, I wouldn't deliberately put up anti-homeschooling propaganda without representing it as such.
93 posted on 02/26/2004 11:15:08 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: netmilsmom
I don't think this was an attack on home shcool. If that was what you got, then you must have been to sensitive to home schoolers. I think that home school has a lot of advanteges over public. The point was the lack of socialization with boys...rough housing etc... But offset by fathers....usually Conservative religous fathers....
94 posted on 02/26/2004 11:16:22 PM PST by hmong
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To: Marie
WWWHHHAATTT? I must have been reading a different article. He gives a positive view on conservative religious home schooling fathers...etc..re-read the article....
95 posted on 02/26/2004 11:36:34 PM PST by hmong
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To: Old Professer
namely that being gay or lesbian, bisexual or transgendered is nothing more than a fad of our modern time.

Even fads are attributable to something that can be identified. Is it possible to hasten the end of the homosexual fad?

One cannot be quantifiabily queer in a sexual sense absent a clinical definition.

While this is far from a "clinical" definition, here's my gibberish on the subject: To be homosexual one must meet one criteria. That is, to repeatedly participate in sexual acts with a member of the same sex. What is the defining trait of homosexuality if not sex between two members of the same sex? Sex is what separates "buddies" from "gay lovers".
96 posted on 02/26/2004 11:39:50 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Paul what the heck. Someone else cannot tell you what you think in your mind?????

Huh.. In this context of psychology..the schizo would have more knowledge and credibility with his own mind...okay..yeah what ever.

You think he is full of it. Your statement about bisexual sounds like what you wish was true. ahahahhhh (pulling hair time).
97 posted on 02/26/2004 11:42:44 PM PST by hmong
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Even identical twin can recieve different portions of hormones from their mother in the womb.

Nope

98 posted on 02/27/2004 12:07:33 AM PST by realpatriot71 ("But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise . . ." (I Cor. 1:27))
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To: In_25_words_or_less
Stats--I don't see any p or f value in this article or your statement."""
99 posted on 02/27/2004 12:13:30 AM PST by hmong
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To: hmong
I DID read the entire article. First he implies that homeschooling boys are more at risk than PS kids because they have less positive social time with members of his own sex, THEN he goes on to say that homeschooling fathers are better role models. He presents both sides of the argument as viable and doesn't use the second to invalidate the first. He presents BOTH options as truisms and I KNOW that I?m not the only person who read that way.

Reread the article. Read the first half, then pretend that it ends there. Then read the second half and see if it states ANYWHERE that his second theory negates the first.

100 posted on 02/27/2004 12:15:30 AM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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