Homosexuality Avoidable, Doctor Tells Parents

San Francisco Faith: The Bay Areas Lay Catholic Newspaper. ^ | Dr. Joseph Nicolosi

[mrs tiggywinkle]

That's called *psychobabble*.

I'm outta here...going to Monterey for a 2 day homeschool field trip concentrating on John Steinbeck. Steinbeck's 102nd birthday celebration is Saturday. Lots to do! Lots of clam chowder to eat! Lots of tidepooling! eeeha!

[fml]

It does? I think I can stop reading right here.

As a homeschooling parent, I hope you don't teach that to your kids. As pointed out by another poster the article says more - but being defensive is just fun, right?

[mrs tiggywinkle]

**I'm guessing your right. Homeschoolers seem to be a pretty sensitive bunch. **

Interesting how hs'rs are labled 'sensitive' when we take issue with psychobabble. Many people are ignorant about homeschoolers, including the person who wrote the flip flop article.

[fml]

If the father is cold, distant, aloof, detached or critical, that doesn't happen properly.

And I guess mean married men should be outraged too?

Whereas, the more politically/socially/religiously liberal people tend to blur gender distinctions.

Whach out liberals.

hostile relationship with the older brother,

Uh-oh, families should maybe only have one son

Many people have a family member or neighbor who is homosexual.

Ooops, now we have to move

If all you want to do is take a few sentances, isolate them and then be defensive then thats a game anyone can play. Read the article in the light it was meant and maybe you'll get something more than a perceved threat to your choices.

[ChocChipCookie]

I identified with the Fairy Godmother in the Cinderella movie. Do you think I'm at risk?

Definitely!! Please seek help!!

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

As a homeschooling parent, I hope you don't teach that to your kids. As pointed out by another poster the article says more - but being defensive is just fun, right?

Oh, I didn't really mean that I was going to stop reading it. I guess I lied. I *do* teach my kids to lie. ;-)

[realpatriot71]

I have heard of strange medical cases dealing with a baby's developement in the womb.

Developmentally speaking there are all kinds of strange cases, but hormones from the mother would get to each twin in similar concentrations, and if both twins are genetically identical, then the hormone will have the same response.

[ChocChipCookie]

I think the reason for the controversy about this article is that none of us have ever even had a thought in our heads that connected homosexuality with homeschooling. The fact that homeschooling is mentioned so much in this interview makes me wonder if, perhaps, his intended audience is a bunch of Catholic homeschoolers or maybe this article was intended for parents of young sissy-boys. Whatever!

I do not think that he is dissing homeschooling, just putting out a warning that homeschooling parents should make an extra effort to get their sons into soccer leagues. Or something. I'm not sure I buy into that. I spent too many years in the public school system, 90% of it run by women, and saw too many teachers who REALLY just wanted a classroom full of little girls. I would ask this nice doctor, where on earth does he think 99.999999999% of the gays in our nation went to school??

As a future homeschooler, however, I WILL keep in mind what he has to say about providing plenty of boy-oriented play time for my son.

Overall, I appreciated his message of hope for parents of boys who seem predisposed toward feminine characteristics as well as hope for homosexuals themselves.

[Carry_Okie]

From what I can tell, the experience of this professional has been colored by the fact that he has had a disproportionate interest in his services from home schooling parents.

This indicates contributing factors having nothing to do with the relative propensity for a home educated child to exhibit homosexual behavior (and I note that there was NO mention of lesbian children at all). Home schooling parents are much more likely to notice potentially aberrant behavior and act upon it early. Home schooling parents are also competing with Catholic schools (I pulled my kids out of a church school because of the same liberal stupidity that is rampant in public schools). Finally, psychologists have very little experience with children whose social interactions are across a wide age spectrum and tend to view the massive chronological stratification practiced in the mass-production education system as "normal," (which is a weird idea on the face of it).

[fml]

LOL...the beauty of the lil' white lie

[GOPrincess]

"To begin, I would say that I think home-schooled children have a particular vulnerability for a number of reasons. The primary reason, especially for the boy (and I'll be focusing primarily on boys), is that it isolates him from his peers."

What a bunch of completely unsubstantiated malarkey. The old "homeschoolers are hermits" notion, and that's not the worst of it. Has the author never heard of Little League, soccer, Boy Scouts, 4H, church, park days, field trips, neighborhood friends -- and most of all, the father as the primary role model, rather than the peer group?

There is a book which has already been published in Canada which completely refutes this article -- the book's name escapes me, but it was about the dangers posed by teens who are alienated from parents and adult authority because they have been pushed away by their parents via daycare, divorce, school, etc., and thus teens identify too strongly with their peer group rather than wanting to model adult behavior, with disastrous social consequences. I don't know if the book's author has any more "research" to go on than the author of this piece, but it shows there are certainly at least two sides to every story.

Thanks for the ping :).

[cinFLA]

I thought the same thing, but then the author contradicts himself and says homeschool dads are more involved with their sons.

Actually, what he says is dads SHOULD be more involved.

[GOPrincess]

"And we should believe that children, who spend more of their time in a homosexual driven environment ( see public school NEA), away from parental control ,and influenced by peers and trendy fads, are less likely to become homosexuals."

Great point. It is the public schools, with their growing rules about "respecting gender identification" (in CA it's what you *think* you are, not how you were born), "Heather is Two Mommies" read in classrooms, etc., that are pushing the homosexual agenda. I've read stories about pro-homosexual assemblies, etc., in Northern CA that made my hair curl. The pushing of homosexuality as an equally acceptable choice with heterosexuality in public schools is one reason among many my three youngest children are no longer in public schools.

[Maximum Leader]

Or its neither genetics nor nurture. What if its caused by a virus?
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/calebcrain/gaygerm

[GOPrincess]

"He's saying that there is not a whole classroom full of children. During this time, the child is not interacting with people his own age. Peer interaction is an important factor in the boy developing his masculine identity like other boys, as opposed to the feminine identity like the girls. That peer interaction is not built into the environment of home-schooling. Dr. Nicolosi has thus identified the vulnerability. He later discusses the solution."

You know, until the last 100+ years in this country, for a high percentage of children school was not a child's main experience with "life" and "socialization." The family unit -- including homeschooling and working with the family -- was where the child spent the bulk of his time. How on earth did we avoid turning into a nation of homosexuals before children had classrooms to "interact with peers their own age"?

[Triple Word Score]

Is that like,

Boys might become homosexual! Throw rocks at them!

[Paul C. Jesup]

Actually, that is not exactly true, it depends on if each twin had been separated to the point of having two different sacks and/or placentas, and whether or not those (or that single) placenta(s) filtered the mother’s hormones in different proportions to each twin during their time in the womb.

[hsmomx3]

Homeschoolers are not indoctrinated into govt. school thought control processes. As a homeschooling mom, we have not avoided the issues facing our world today. We discuss an issue, state why we (my husband and I) feel it is right or wrong, then seek the Bible for answers. Of course, those on the other side will say that us parents have brainwashed our kids.

[hsmomx3]

"Home-schooling is such an unpopular decision..."

I kid you not, you ought to hear how many public schooled kids tell my kids they wish they were homeschooled due to what is going on in their govt. schools. When they ask their parents to be homeschooled, forget it.

[capitan_refugio]

Thank you for the fascinating link. The authors make a provocative argument.

I tend to lean toward the psychological side, rather than the physical side of the issue. I think, in some cases at least, people become conditioned to enjoy that sort of behavior.