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10 Years Later in Rwanda, the Dead Are Ever Present [Bill Clinton mention--sit down for this one]
NY Times ^ | February 26, 2004 | MARC LACEY

Posted on 02/26/2004 5:38:02 AM PST by Pharmboy

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Only the NY effin' Times could publish an article about the most hideous occurrance of the 90s and get in a GOOD mention of Bill Clinton: the guy who did NOTHING while this massacre was going on.

Even for the Times this is WAY over the top. Can you imagine for one moment what they would have said if this atrocity happened on a Republican's watch?

Mr. NY Times Ombudsman, call your office...

1 posted on 02/26/2004 5:38:03 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Timesink; All
If you folks don't want to wade through the whole article, here is the ONLY mention of x42 in the article:

Thanks to donations from Rwanda's former colonial power, Belgium, and the foundation run by former President Bill Clinton, work is under way on an education center at the school in Murabi that will tell the story of the killings without offering up so much first-hand evidence.

2 posted on 02/26/2004 5:40:30 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: mhking
Ping
3 posted on 02/26/2004 5:41:25 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
I'm kind of freaked that they would keep buildings full of ten-year-old smelly corpses as a memorial. I mean, take pictures or something and then bury those people. Geez.
4 posted on 02/26/2004 5:57:09 AM PST by prion
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To: Pharmboy
I don't see too many references to the United Nations in this article, either. The U.N., and the Belgians in particular, stood by while the massacre took place. Rwanda was a pretty good example of what happens to countries that put their trust in the U.N.

I'm sure clinton feels their pain.
5 posted on 02/26/2004 5:59:35 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pharmboy
The Rwandan genocide began on April 7, 1994 and ended on July 19, 1994. In those 103 terror filled days, over 800,000 people from the Tutsi Tribe were killed. The Law on the Control of Firearms enacted in 1964 made the murderous job of the Hutu Tribe easier. The Hutu not only had firearms, they were government-issued firearms.

It was Decree-Law No. 12 was passed in 1979:
•Register guns, owners, ammunition
•Owners must justify need
•Concealable guns illegal
•Confiscating powers
6 posted on 02/26/2004 6:00:41 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Cicero
Good point about the UN--but at least they didn't say how much good the UN is doing there now!
7 posted on 02/26/2004 6:01:57 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: 2banana
Hmmm...similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews before they rounded them up: took their guns away.
8 posted on 02/26/2004 6:03:37 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
get in a GOOD mention of Bill Clinton: the guy who did NOTHING while this massacre was going on.

I wouldn't blame Clinton so much on this. Kofi Anan was head of UN peacekeeping there with troops on the ground and ordered them to stand by and watch, even when they started killing his own troops. His role in the mess seems to have been cleaned up in the official and mass media versions.

9 posted on 02/26/2004 6:04:26 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Pharmboy
Hmmm...similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews before they rounded them up: took their guns away.

Seems to be a commom theme before a government sponsored genocide happens. See "Death by Gun Control" by JPFO at:

http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm

10 posted on 02/26/2004 6:06:51 AM PST by 2banana
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To: antiRepublicrat
I guess we will have to disagree.

I remember reading the Times back when this was going on and incredulous that the leader of the free world did NOTHING while this was happening. The UN can pound sand--I have no connection to them and detest Kofi Anan. Clinton was president of this great country which I am part of.

11 posted on 02/26/2004 6:09:51 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy
Not to support the Times nor Clinton, but during the Reagan years the Tutsi and Hutus were killing each other at a pretty good clip and I never saw any mention of it in US papers though the Brits and South Africans printed a good bit about it.

The Tutsi are a small minority (with most of the guns) controlling the Hutus majority. The only way the problem will even be noticed here is if someone starts claiming the Tutsi are really white!

12 posted on 02/26/2004 6:10:17 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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HC--the tree might have fallen in the forest, but no one heard it here in the 80s if it was not reported. And, though I believe you since you sound like you know what you're talking about, it evidently was nowhere near the enormity of what happened in 94.
13 posted on 02/26/2004 6:13:32 AM PST by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; Pharmboy
I may have my countries wrong, I just looked in an old file and found a South African Star story about 24,000 Hutus killed by a thousand Tutsi soldiers in August of 1988 in Burundi.

Same tribes, neighboring countries.

14 posted on 02/26/2004 6:16:48 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Pharmboy
24,000 in a week is a bunch and it is an AP story so someone darn well knew it in US newsrooms ......
15 posted on 02/26/2004 6:19:14 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
justiceiscertainsomedaybump
16 posted on 02/26/2004 6:20:52 AM PST by tracer (ay)
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To: Pharmboy
The Tutsi-led government that now runs Rwanda has eliminated ethnicity from identity cards and made it a crime to say or do anything that can be construed as "divisionist."

In the U.S. we can't be racist or more conscious of differences. In fact we think being "divisionist" driven is what made us great. (diversity=division). As Christians and whites are vilified ... we merrily march along as even broader range "divisionists".

Will we EVER learn?
17 posted on 02/26/2004 6:26:20 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: prion
"I'm kind of freaked that they would keep buildings full of ten-year-old smelly corpses"

I'm more freaked that people deny the Holocaust ever happened. Perhaps these poor Rwandans are more savvy than we know. Nothing like real, smelly evidence. Smelly corpses brutally murdered can't have their tormentors forgiven by some jury of dupes (or media) who think any doubt is reasonable, and therefore an aquittal of guilt. Rwanda wants to preserve the evil evidence the same way the Jews do, because they've learned quickly how fast the world turns.
18 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:05 AM PST by January24th
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To: Pharmboy
I remember reading the Times back when this was going on and incredulous that the leader of the free world did NOTHING while this was happening.

It was really none of our business (kind of like Haiti right now), while the UN had a peacekeeping presence and responsibility there. I may not like Clinton, but Anan is pure communist scum.

19 posted on 02/26/2004 6:27:08 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: prion
If you just take pictures and get rid of the corpses, it's possible to deny that the whole thing ever took place. Which is what happened in the Holocaust. The people who survived, who have actual proof of the experience tatooed on their forearms, are rapidly dying of old age, and they can no longer testify. Their videotaped accounts can be denied. But if we had six million skulls to look at, the Holocaust deniers would be out of business.

I think these Rwandans should carefully preserve all 800000 skulls and respectfully bury the rest of the corpses.

20 posted on 02/26/2004 6:28:47 AM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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