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Arnold backs immigrant candidacy
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Posted on 02/24/2004 5:53:09 AM PST by Celantro
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People wonder why I've had it with the two party system? I sure wish John Stossel would run on a Libertarian ticket.
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:53:09 AM PST
by
Celantro
To: Celantro
Arnold please STFU
To: Celantro
California's Austrian-born governor says foreign-born citizens should be able to run for president and he supports a constitutional amendment to make it happenYeah? Well, Bill Klinton wanted to do away with the 22nd Amendment. Perhaps, the 2 of them ought to get together & form a support group?
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:55:57 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: Celantro
I'm sure it will be passed, and fairly sure it's not intended to benefit Rnold. The debate over his run in Calif. here was spun as he might be too liberal for the rest of the country but he's alright for Calif. I wonder who they really have in mind for us?
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:57:10 AM PST
by
steve50
("Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." -H. L. Mencken)
To: Celantro; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; Pro-Bush; ...
"California's Austrian-born governor says foreign-born citizens should be able to run for president and he supports a constitutional amendment to make it happen."
Right Arnold - we'll set it up right after we plug in amendments for gay (mairrage), abortion of demand at grade schools, and relocating the national capital to Mexico City.
You just have to admire a public servant with their priorites in the right place.
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:57:54 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
To: Celantro
People wonder why I've had it with the two party system?We now have many more than two parties. What makes you think that more, or different, major parties will solve anything?
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:58:16 AM PST
by
Consort
To: Celantro
Arnold's proposal sounds like the Kennedy influence seeping out. Next, he will be proposing that there was no bridge in Chappaquidic.
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:59:05 AM PST
by
hgro
To: Celantro
Remember the good old days when the law was the law, and it didn't need to be changed every time somebody with a big ego wanted different?
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posted on
02/24/2004 5:59:26 AM PST
by
Ken522
To: novacation
Think he'll clean up that steroid mess?
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:00:17 AM PST
by
billorites
(freepo ergo sum)
To: Celantro
I'd sure like to see how Arnold straightens out Californjia before he changes the Constitution of the U.S.A.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:03:14 AM PST
by
chatham
To: Celantro
Nothing to do with the two-party system. It's called human nature, or original sin. Nothing in this world will ever be perfect.
I said to begin with that I thought Karl Rove manipulated things so Simon would lose and Arnold would win, because he wanted a pro-abort Country Clubber in California. Now he has what he wants, and it was a big mistake.
I wouldn't vote for Arnold for president under any consideration. But we can live with him as governor of California as long as Rove comes to his senses and Arnold is quarantined in California. If Arnold comes to the Republican convention and starts pitching the Big Tent again, it will divide the party and we will have NO CHANCE of a significant gain in the Senate.
The solution is to try to bring the Republicans to their senses, not to go chasing after some third party that will have all of the same troubles. Was Pat Buchanan the solution? Was Ross Perot? Will the next splinter party candidate be any better? They're all human, and Bush is far better than most of them. I just wish Rove would get a little political sense. Abortion is a losing game for the Republicans. It's not only wrong, it's politically stupid.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:03:37 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Consort
>We now have many more than two parties. What makes you think that more, or different, major parties will solve anything?
We don't in practice. Two parties get virtually all of the votes. We need a third party with a chance for a serious run in order to restore Conservatism by sending a message to the Republican Party that its base cannot be taken for granted. Leftists apparently feel that a third party candidate like Ralph Nader is a threat to their dominance too.
I'm telling you, John Stossel sounds like he'd get my vote. Both the dems and the Republicans would be in panic mode if he made a serious run. They'd both need to find their base and appeal to it for a change.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:06:27 AM PST
by
Celantro
To: Celantro
Does anyone think this MIGHT have something to do with the Gubernator's chances of running for President??
The Gubernator is a perfect example of WHY foreign borns shouldn't run for President. His anti-gun record bespeaks a foreign attitude towards firearms and their significance in gaining and keeping our freedom.
I'll trust Adams, Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, et al on this issue over a Hollyweird strongman from Austria. with a Kennedy bride, on the make for higher office.
The Gubernator should strighten out Kalifornia's mess before suggesting ways to amend the Constitution.
By the way, why did it take the Gubernator so long to come out hiding over the law-breakinig, homophilic mayor of San Francisco escapade?
The Gubernator is NO Ronald Reagan.
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:12:25 AM PST
by
ZULU
(GOD BLESS SENATOR McCARTHY!!!!)
To: Celantro
Questions for the citizenship legal experts:
a) If US citizens working for the US government, or just visiting, in Austria give birth while there, is the child now eligible to run for President?
b) If Austrian citizens working or visiting in the US give birth, is the child now eligible to run for President?
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:16:57 AM PST
by
Consort
To: steve50
The first criteria in discussing the need for foreigners to run our government should be if there are no available and worthy candidates within our own country. I will pass on that one because the selection looks rather meager at the present time.
The second issue would be vetting the prospective candidate to see if he carried the loyalty of his former country interests over that of the United States. I can see where this could fairly be called a toss-up with our present political system of selecting only those interested in their own and special interests instead of genuine regard for the betterment of the nation as a whole.
The biggest problem I see, would be the possibility of electing a succesor to the policies of the Third Reich or the Soviet Union. We have enough of our own extemists, thank you!
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:27:18 AM PST
by
meenie
To: Celantro
I'm telling you, John Stossel sounds like he'd get my vote.And which major party would benefit by your vote for Stossel?
Both the dems and the Republicans would be in panic mode if he made a serious run.
They would?
They'd both need to find their base and appeal to it for a change.
They were all put in office by the voters, many of whom make up that so-called "base". "It's the voters,...."
Conservatives voting Third Party self fragment and dilute their power across multiple parties....or is that your intention?
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posted on
02/24/2004 6:27:24 AM PST
by
Consort
To: Celantro
There is a reason why it's hard to ammend the Constitution...regardless Arnold is not presidential material (then again who is these days, the people who would best serve as President want nothing to do with the job or the campaigning).
To: Celantro
I'd like to see Arnold uphold and enforce the existing laws first.
He can "dream the impossible dream" there's nothing wrong with that.
He has CA Attorney General Lockyer in his crosshairs over the gay marriage idiocy. I hope he keeps him there.
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posted on
02/24/2004 7:19:26 AM PST
by
b9
To: Consort
>Conservatives voting Third Party self fragment and dilute their power across multiple parties....or is that your intention?
Conservatives voting Republican have to hold their noses to do it and my nose is beginning to hurt from all the holding. I'd rather vote for a conservative/Libertarian myself. I'm done.
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posted on
02/24/2004 7:29:08 AM PST
by
Celantro
To: Celantro
Conservatives voting Republican have to hold their noses to do it and my nose is beginning to hurt from all the holding.Bull. If your nose hurts, put some ice on it.
I'd rather vote for a conservative/Libertarian myself.
Give it a rest.
I'm done.
Is that so.
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posted on
02/24/2004 4:16:05 PM PST
by
Consort
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