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RALLY REPORT - Kaloogian and Tancredo ROCK Republican Convention in California!
Howard Kaloogian for U.S. Senate ^ | 02/22/2004 | Me

Posted on 02/22/2004 11:15:39 AM PST by Impeach98

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To: Missouri
No one is perfect. Mexicans tend to be Republican in NW Illinois. Take your pick. One way or the other.

Oberweis is STILL a liar on an issue far more important to me. This Catholic pro-lifer regards him as a liar for calling pro-lifers the Taliban two years ago or for calling himself "a lifelong Catholic pro-lifer." A candidate who lies about abortion will lie about anything. No sale.

We can well do without the likes of the opportunistic and dishonest Mr. Oberweis and, matter of fact, we will. It is Jack Ryan or Blair Hull (or possibly Dan Hynes). Hull has managed to get himself in a briar patch for assaulting his ex-wife and injuring her shins in a nasty 1998 divorce. This is bad news because he is easier road kill than the more competent but lesser funded Hynes. Ryan can win. Hynes (God forbid) can win. Blair Hull cannot win. Oberweis and McKenna are both stooge candidates of the Lyin' George clan of corruption which is NOT coming back. McKenna is credibly pro-life but tainted by the fact that he would do Lyin' George's bidding and challenge incumbent Peter Fitzgerald in a primary. Kathuria is apparently a good and principled guy who is going nowhere. Rauschenberger is probably harder line than Jack Ryan (note that he is NOT anti-Mexican) and a hero in the state senate but drastically underfunded. Borland is a pro-abort which is not overcome by his immigration position. He is a genuine Vietnam War hero and suffered in the Hanoi Hilton as a POW but is not ready for primetime as a candidate.

If "illegal" bothers you so much, do you call IRS to report neighbors for exaggerating their deductions, or set up your own radar units to ID speed violators? Would you agree that there are many silly laws that ought not to be enforced? Do I have to list some?

My earliest American ancestors came from Germany when James Polk was president and lived in southern Indiana. They had no "papers" and when America was still that free, no one had the effrontery to demand "papers."

Is your point that the GOP, having long alienated that 12% of Americans who are black must balance that by alienating the 13% who are Hispanic? They are coming in. They are here. They are staying. We are not going isolationist and pulling the military back from all over the world to machinegun the mamacitas crossing the border for a better life. We are not about to lay a cobalt strip on the border. We are not going to authorize a bunch of good ol' boys in pickup trucks near the border to go Mexican hunting.

If you are concerned over the loss of jobs via NAFTA and GATT and WTO, so am I. If you fear that there are not enough jobs for Americans because of wrong-headed policies that export American jobs, good for you. I can agree on those things but this anti-Mexican business is very ugly and unworthy of our country and even more unworthy of conservatism. If we become some sort of movement of race and bloodlines, we are finished as a movement and as a country. You and many people here want sincerely to give hope to those who agree with you on these border questions. There are no practical plans and you do yourselves a disservice in creating false hopes of what will not be. It will be Bush or Kerry with all that is implied and to be inferred from that choice.

If your motives are economic, you have to have more of a platform than Stop the Mexicans! We Illinoisans are closer by far to the Canadian border and it is much longer and much more likely to be the crossing place for terrorists. Bush CAN lose if he fails to address the job drain just as his father lost for being economically clueless.

If you think this border business is more important than pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, tax reduction, national defense, pre-emptive war as an option, regulation reduction and abrogation of NAFTA and GATT and destroying WTO, then God bless you but I respectfully and permanently disagree. Our sovereignty is far more threatened by the WTO and GATT than it ever will be by people from South of the Border coming here to find a far better life.

That is what I believe. I am not changing my mind. I am not interested in arguing this question at this time. If you disagree, then America is once more proven to be a great country where we think, say and believe what we will.

301 posted on 02/24/2004 6:55:54 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: RonDog
BUMP!
302 posted on 02/24/2004 7:32:53 AM PST by abigail2 (My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it...C. B. Kelland)
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To: Impeach98
A little off subject, but Mr. Kaloogian just started a recall of our "esteemed" Attorney General.
303 posted on 02/24/2004 7:36:50 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: Impeach98
Done.... :=) ... let the commercials roll!
304 posted on 02/24/2004 6:17:30 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Poohbah
I've always shown seditionists the appropriate level of respect, especially when they use 100% BS arguments to advance their cause.

That is not the only trait you share with the Soviet nomenklatura who blissfully remained aware of the breakup of their beloved Soviet Union right up until it happened, then bemoaned their lost positions of privelidge and promised pensions.

305 posted on 02/24/2004 7:58:29 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Redbob
The California GOP has a convention twice a year?

Could be. Or they could hold it once a year, but it's onlt a halfhearted, semi-convention.

Or it might be that they hold it in the back of a semitrailer truck's trailer, to the tunes of C.W. McCall's Convoy, perhaps....

Other possibilities are also worth consideration....

306 posted on 02/24/2004 8:02:09 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: FairOpinion
(If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists

If you vote to vote in the rigged elections at all, your choice may be between someone who supports North Vietnamese and muslum terrorists, or one allied with Mexican terrorists and their Chinese partners.


307 posted on 02/24/2004 8:07:37 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I MISS Melanie, Lee, and Brian!!!

I moved to GA two years ago, and listened online for a while, but I can no longer get KSFO online.... : (

I would have loved to attend this event.
308 posted on 02/24/2004 8:07:46 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: archy
In regard to your post #307, a picture indeed speaks a thousand words.

China will benefit the most from our failure to halt illegal immigration.
309 posted on 02/24/2004 11:12:33 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: MissouriForBush
In regard to your post #307, a picture indeed speaks a thousand words.

China will benefit the most from our failure to halt illegal immigration.

Source:

Wen: China, Mexico are partners, not competitors

( 2003-12-14 09:31) (Xinhua)

Premier Wen Jiabao said on Friday that China and Mexico are partners instead of competitors and that more cooperation is in the interests of both sides.

Wen made the remark while addressing a breakfast with about 60 prominent business leaders. Mexican Secretary of Economy Fernando Canales attended the breakfast.


310 posted on 02/24/2004 11:20:02 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Poohbah; Impeach98
No, a$$wipe, I just know it by a description of the events in question.

Yeah...right. Don't get your hopes up thinking I'm an "a$$wipe". But, if you're looking for someone of like mind with yourself you might want to check the bath houses over there in...oh, never mind.

BTW, if you're going to insult me, maggot, have the testicular fortitude to ping me to the post.

1) I was not insulting you on that particular post. I was pointing out a fact.

2) You really seem fixated on testiculars.

311 posted on 02/25/2004 1:26:50 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Poohbah
folks like you tend to be unwilling or unable to engage in thought.

People like Impeach98 are as much involved in thought as you are with "testiculars"...and that's pretty engaged.

312 posted on 02/25/2004 1:29:49 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: RightWingMama
A little off subject, but Mr. Kaloogian just started a recall of our "esteemed" Attorney General

Sounds GREAT! I'll be gathering signatures for that one!

313 posted on 02/25/2004 1:34:50 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
Don't get your hopes up thinking I'm an "a$$wipe".

I stand corrected. A$$wipes serve a useful purpose. You just waste food, water, and oxygen.

314 posted on 02/25/2004 4:49:23 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
I stand corrected.

You usually do.

A$$wipes serve a useful purpose. You just waste food, water, and oxygen.

Man, you cannot pull yourself away from your testicular and anal fascinations, can you?

But we're not really interested in hearing you wax philosophical about wiping your A$$.

315 posted on 02/25/2004 8:27:22 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Impeach98; All; NYC Republican
Given the energy displayed at this event, I would like to throw down a challenge. I would like to see the following vision put into play. Imagine thousands of events like this taking place over the next year. Imagine the full mobilization of a reinvigorated GOP support network, and, the creation of the "mother-of-all-web-communities," far outclassing and outmarshaling anything we've seen from the Deaniacs. Meet ups, freeps, funding drives, recruitment, team writing and pulbication, distributed planning and mangement. We already know how to do these things and already do them well - this is the springboard from which we can surge ahead. Imagine the resurgence of the classical Right wing of the GOP, raising our voices in unison, and seizing the reins of GOP power back under our control. Imagine unprecedented outreach to youth, to hardworking average Americans, to legal immigrants, and to true believers in borders, language and culture. Now, let us take this vision, and set forth on an incredible journey. Hang on for the rocket ride of your lives!
316 posted on 02/25/2004 10:26:05 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Ohioan
'64 convention redux? If so, then who are the Goldwaterians, and who are the Rockefellerians? ;) Of course the flaw in my comparison is that we've got a sitting GOP president. Thank God for that. But in any case, the Right need to retake the GOP before it's destroyed.
317 posted on 02/25/2004 10:36:08 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: tame; Impeach98; Poohbah
I have an idea. Poohbah, why don't we have you call into Suss-man's show, and debate him on the air regarding Kaloogian and Tancredo. What say you?
318 posted on 02/25/2004 10:40:43 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark; CounterCounterCulture; calcowgirl; sfRummygirl; TomasUSMC; TatooChick; Carry_Okie; ...
I have put a proposal on the table. I have challenged Poohbah to call into Suss-man's show and debate him live, on the air, regarding Kaloogian, Tancredo, and, our desire to more strongly feature the voice of the Right wing of the GOP, which Poohbah appears to greatly despise. The direction of the GOP is an important topic and needs to be widely and openly debated. The current orthodoxy need to defend their position and subject it to wider scrutiny. What do you all think? I am sure Suss-man would go for it, but what about Poohbah? Is he man enough to take on this challenge? Let's hope so, because I would really look forward to hearing the debate!
319 posted on 02/25/2004 10:54:22 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
I have an idea. Poohbah, why don't we have you call into Suss-man's show, and debate him on the air regarding Kaloogian and Tancredo. What say you?

Debate Sussman about what, pray tell?

I'm going by my never-humble opinion, which is based on my observations.

Kaloogian is great if you're a member of the conservative faithful, and the GOP will turn out to vote for him.

If the GOP were a majority in the state of California, then that would be sufficient.

But we aren't.

320 posted on 02/25/2004 12:07:23 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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