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In Politics, the Web Is a Parallel World With Its Own Rules (NY Times whines ...Bush hits Kerry )
The New York Times ^ | February 22, 2004 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/21/2004 6:45:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks.
I watched that video the day it was first out.
I only wish it was on TV.
41 posted on 02/21/2004 7:37:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The New York Times owns the courts through marriage-beds and disseminated green cards.

The New York Times will allow neither truth nor freedom.

42 posted on 02/21/2004 7:40:56 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Conservababe; Piranha; Lunatic Fringe; Neets; jungleboy; Lancey Howard; MiniCooperChick
I haven't seen any yet.

Looks like the real campaign is starting and the internet is going to be a player!
43 posted on 02/21/2004 7:42:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Piranha
From the article:

"The Democrat candidates have not aggressively used attack ads on the Web...."

The NY Times is lying.
Check out the link at post #18.

44 posted on 02/21/2004 7:43:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Sooo, how many lies by the DNC, er, NYT is in this hysterical article?
45 posted on 02/21/2004 7:47:16 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: Lancey Howard
Now that is an attack ad!
46 posted on 02/21/2004 7:48:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What is more important to politics? NYT or FR?

What is a better forum of political discourse? NYT or FR?

What is a more efficient source of political information? NYT or FR?

What is usually one to two days behind the information curve? NYT or FR?

What is a more comprehensive source of information? NYT or FR?

If you answered NYT to any question, you forgot to take your medications.
47 posted on 02/21/2004 7:49:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
LOL!

Good one!
48 posted on 02/21/2004 7:52:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard
The NY Times is lying.

What's new?

49 posted on 02/21/2004 7:54:34 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; cyborg
What I find fatally flawed in this article is the fact that they condemn the use of a medium that is 'unregulated'.

Therefore, if the medium is unregulated, it is an 'equal opportunity' forum for ALL.

They are pissed because they got 'one-upped?' perchance?



50 posted on 02/21/2004 7:56:48 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: longtermmemmory
I am not defending the NYT, but in fairness, it's impossible for the print media to compete with the immediacy of the internet.

And remember, FR relies on standard print/tv/radio media sources a lot of the time for discourse.
51 posted on 02/21/2004 7:58:59 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Happygal
exactly what it is... the Internet is unregulated so besides porno sites, the conservative ones are the most fun! *lol* Who wants to waste internet time reading more doom and gloom?
52 posted on 02/21/2004 8:00:11 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I honestly have to say that the internet ad they are talking about is very mild. Attack ad?? The moveon ad morphing GWB with Hitler - that was a low disgusting ad. The James Byrd being dragged by a (republican) truck was a low disgusting ad.

So much of what the media says is "vicious attack ads" are all coming from the dems. Can anyone refresh my memory as to a vicious attack ad from republicans?
53 posted on 02/21/2004 8:00:30 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: Happygal
It must really gall journalism grads who work for the NYT to have their "professional" articles dissected and every flaw exposed.

Their proselytizing and supporting of their pet political stands are no longer unchallenged. Of course this is all old news.

What is surprising is how much the NYT still whines about the Internet. Their whining becomes more and more pronounced on each election year.
54 posted on 02/21/2004 8:11:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Happygal
True, but given time new sources of information will arrise.
55 posted on 02/21/2004 8:13:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A forlorn lament against true freedom of speech, and of the press.
56 posted on 02/21/2004 8:18:44 PM PST by Imal (Censorship is a hallmark of Liberalism.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I look forward to it. I certainly don't fear it.

I'm a journalism graduate myself. :-)
Just spells an expanded jobs market for me, really!
57 posted on 02/21/2004 8:22:15 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: lainie
"The article strikes me as a foolish attack on the web that they can't control."

Right. This is the NYTimes whining that people have agendas different from them. They barely notice that it was the media that has given Kerry a pass and forced Bush campaign to raise an issue.

58 posted on 02/21/2004 8:31:52 PM PST by WOSG (If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Clearly the Internet is accelerating the pace at which politics move,’’ said Jim Jordan, Mr. Kerry’s former campaign manager. “

Translation: Lamestream media no longer controls the news. Thinking people can get unfiltered news from other sources.

59 posted on 02/21/2004 8:35:17 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (The brighter you are, the more you have to learn)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hmmm, seems the illustrious New York Times failed to notice that the ad got it's information from the Washington Post. Oh, I guess that doesn't matter to the kind of rag that employed Jason Blair and didn't even notice his blatantly fake stories.
60 posted on 02/21/2004 8:46:38 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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