In Politics, the Web Is a Parallel World With Its Own Rules (NY Times whines ...Bush hits Kerry )

The New York Times ^ | February 22, 2004 | JIM RUTENBERG

[MEG33]

I just typed .gov and got the proper site.Your mistake was .org.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Where is the NY Times article on the Bush-Hitler ads?!

I'm sure we'll see that in tomorrow's op-ed page... right? RIGHT?!

[cyborg]

good thing it wasn't whitehouse.com hehehehehe

I went to DU once.... I heard the loud noise of my brain cells' death gasp

[demlosers]

DU won't even let you search the site, if you're not a paying member.

The alterative method - use Google to search for the keyword 'bush' using site:[website here]

example:

bush site:democraticunderground.com

gets you many hits.

"Searched pages from democraticunderground.com for bush. Results 1 - 10 of about 12,100. Search took 0.14 seconds."

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The correct link is:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

[jungleboy]

Could you please 'splain to me, why this is breaking news.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

RIGHT!

I fell right into that one.

[Neets]

LOL..don't feel badly, I am sure you weren't the only one Ernie.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Yeah, but you gotta love some of their accessories...

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Because of the subject of the article; That Bush is starting to answer Kerry via the internet.

However I haven't been able to find the ad the Times is talking about as yet!

[Lancey Howard]

If I recall from the two times I visited DU, don't they actually have some kind of 'mark' next to the screen names indicating how much money each poster has paid to DU? With the scumbag Democrats, it's always about the money.

[MiniCooperChick]

Since when has telling the truth about one's political opponent become an "attack"? I'm really sick of this nonsense.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

They did it well.

Here is the link :

Video Archive

It is February 12, 2004 : Unprincipled, Chapter 1

[Lancey Howard]

Certainly, the former "paper of record" isn't going to cast any aspersions on THEIR OWN candidate. OF COURSE they ignored the Kerry website's anti-Bush attack video.

Thank God the liberal scumbag newspaper industry is going down the toilet. I just wish it would hurry up and die. Maybe leave a few honest newspapers like the NY Post to own the market.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See the link above, it is a very mild ad!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

see the link at post #33!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ROFL!!

Hey its Saturday Night!!!

Livens things up a bit!

[jungleboy]

Got to love this LIE from NYT ..."or validating a charge without independent confirmation."

[Piranha]

It doesn't strike me as much of an attack (except on internet attack ads, and a lot of defensiveness about their refusal to cover the Kerry adultery rumors). Consider the following excerpts:

"When the Web was in its infancy, Internet utopians envisioned a political revolution, predicting that the new medium would engage and empower voters as never before. Much of what they envisioned has come to pass, with the Internet facilitating vigorous debate this year, most dramatically, giving Howard Dean’s campaign the ability to raise millions.

But part of the Web’s appeal has been its unbridled nature, and it is showing that it can act as a back alley — where punches can be thrown and things can be said that might be deemed out of place, even if just at a particular moment, in the full light of the mainstream media....

“'The Web offered a modulated way of engaging.'’’...

The Democrat candidates have not aggressively used attack ads on the Web, although they have used Mr. Bush as a target on television instead of confronting each other, which could risk weakening the party’s chances of gaining the White House....

But perhaps most significantly, the Web has evolved as a relatively permissive environment. A negative advertisement that might rub viewers the wrong way in their living rooms is apparently less likely to do so when they are at their computers....

“'Clearly the Internet is accelerating the pace at which politics move,’ said Jim Jordan, Mr. Kerry’s former campaign manager....

Mickey Kaus, who had discussed the ethics of reporting the rumor on his Web blog, kausfiles.com, agreed that two different journalism worlds exist and he said that it’s a good thing.

“'Clearly we seem to be settling into an equilibrium where standards on the Web are different, and people can live with that as long as the mainstream press behaves the way it behaved during this latest scandal, which is to say they stick to their own standards,’ Mr. Kaus said.

On the Internet, he said, a large number of people can get wind of the sorts of conversations taking place in the proverbial smoke-filled rooms.

“'Now everybody can know what the political pros know,’’ he said. 'So if you’re a voter concerned about electability, you want to know Kerry’s potential problems down the road. Now you have a vague idea, and you can discount them or take them into account depending on what you think.'’’

Sounds pretty favorable to me.

[Conservababe]

I have been getting pop-up ads for Bush.