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When a campaign dies (historical review of US Presidential campaign gaffes)
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Posted on 02/21/2004 11:18:39 AM PST by alnitak

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Courtesy of the BBC. Enjoy predicting Kerry's demise!
1 posted on 02/21/2004 11:18:39 AM PST by alnitak
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To: alnitak
The pictures they have from Carter on are just... well, worth more than 1000 words.
2 posted on 02/21/2004 11:22:34 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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Jesse certainly is giving someone the evil eye.
3 posted on 02/21/2004 11:24:45 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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The key to beating Kerry is getting him inside that tank. Bush's secret weapon will be making Kerry into Mike Dukakis. The Dukakisification of John Kerry will be the stroy of 2004....
4 posted on 02/21/2004 11:24:51 AM PST by Always Right
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The key to beating Kerry is getting him inside that tank.

I don't know... Kerry is more physically imposing than Dukakis was and has the military in his background. He may actually seem comfortable there.

I think his stylistic vulnerability is the same as Algore's. A tendency to look and act like an elitist twit. His temper may also get him.

5 posted on 02/21/2004 11:28:47 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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...Mr Gore often reinforced public impressions that he was arrogant.


6 posted on 02/21/2004 11:29:07 AM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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Another one was the final Reagan-Mondull debate in '84. While many think that the Mondull campaign was doomed from the start (it was, and Ferraro's "you know how Italian men are" gaffe only reinforced the impression that it was a disorganized and silly effort), Mondull ruined his otherwise strong performance in the first debate by looking somewhat like Count Chocula. I wonder if his makeup team was disconnected from reality on that one.
7 posted on 02/21/2004 11:30:41 AM PST by chimera
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I don't know... Kerry is more physically imposing than Dukakis was and has the military in his background.

It's not about physical size or military experience. It is about peace protests, calling our soldiers war criminals, voting against virtually all major weapons programs, voting against the first Gulf War, etc...Kerry is very weak on national defense, no matter how many war medals of someone elses he threw away.

8 posted on 02/21/2004 11:33:24 AM PST by Always Right
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Well... the first debate almost did Reagan in. He did not look good in it and it brought back the questions of whether he was too old.

When Reagan was (indirectly) asked about his age in the second debate and responded that he wasn't about to make "the youth and inexperience" of his opponent an issue, that was the last nail in the Mondale campaign's coffin.
9 posted on 02/21/2004 11:33:54 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Always Right
I hope you have seen this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082762/posts

10 posted on 02/21/2004 11:35:50 AM PST by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Always Right
It's not about physical size or military experience. It is about peace protests, calling our soldiers war criminals, voting against virtually all major weapons programs, voting against the first Gulf War, etc...Kerry is very weak on national defense, no matter how many war medals of someone elses he threw away.

Those are issues.... But the article is more about appearances, mannerisms, and styles of the candidates. With the exception of Ford's gaffe in the debate, none of these gaffes had anything in particular to do with policy. Kerry in a tank could look tough and improve his chances, regardless of where he actually stands.

11 posted on 02/21/2004 11:37:52 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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The key to beating Kerry is getting him inside that tank. Bush's secret weapon will be making Kerry into Mike Dukakis. The Dukakisification of John Kerry will be the stroy of 2004....

It would seem that more than a few people agree with you there...


12 posted on 02/21/2004 11:41:34 AM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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What about Gary Hart's advice to reporters to "put a tail" on him?

I think that was classic arrogance in the AlGore style.

13 posted on 02/21/2004 11:42:31 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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LOL, thanks. They did an great job, just hope DUers don't get their panties in a bind like they did on the fake Fonda-Kerry picture.
14 posted on 02/21/2004 11:50:36 AM PST by Always Right
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Absolutely correct about the second Reagan/Mondale debate. Once Reagan got off that line about the "youth and inexperience" of his opponent, the audience in the hall and the one watching TV at home both had a good laugh. Thus reassured about Reagan's fitness and quick wit, the election was over. You could sense it and everyone in the nation who was not wearing blinders knew it also...


dvwjr
15 posted on 02/21/2004 12:10:55 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: Always Right
just hope DUers don't get their panties in a bind like they did on the fake Fonda-Kerry picture.

Hehehehe. Well, if they do, we oughta break out the cigars and sparkling cider.

Sometimes the best way to tell how well a stone is thrown is by listening for which mutt howls the loudest.   ; )

16 posted on 02/21/2004 12:17:22 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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Note that all of these were on television. (Al Gore's Internet remark was originally played on C-SPAN. For some reason, the tape was never played again.)

Television magnifies a candidate's flaws.
17 posted on 02/21/2004 12:25:19 PM PST by rogueleader
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Once Reagan got off that line about the "youth and inexperience" of his opponent, the audience in the hall and the one watching TV at home both had a good laugh.

Even Mondale was laughing. And his laughter seemed genuine.

18 posted on 02/21/2004 12:43:35 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Always Right
LOL, thanks. They did an great job, just hope DUers don't get their panties in a bind like they did on the fake Fonda-Kerry picture.

You mean the DUpes?

19 posted on 02/21/2004 1:31:26 PM PST by atomicpossum
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I think Reagan nailed it down with "There you go again."

And gore lost more than a few points when he tried to intimidate Bush by looming over him during a debate. Bush didn't intimidate, and the gesture made gore like like a bully and a fool.
20 posted on 02/21/2004 3:07:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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