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Mississippi Man Gets Ten Years For Cocaine Possession
Tyler Morning-Telegraph ^ | 02.20.04

Posted on 02/21/2004 7:07:20 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford

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To: Scenic Sounds
"When this guy gets out in forty years, he's just gonna go back to doing the same thing all over again. Why not give him 400 years?"

I'd say one good reason not to waste the prison space that long on this guy is because there is a never ending supply of people willing to do what he did for the money. We don't have enough facts to know whether these two were just mules or if one or both of them actually owned the coke. One kilo is not that big of a haul so there is some likelihood that one or both of these guys at least had a substantial ownership interest in the coke. A kilo (1000 grams) can be had for $25,000 or less these days wholesale depending on where it's purchased. I live in a nearby southern state and people are buying "eight balls" (3.5 grams) of pretty pure coke here for $150 to $250 depending on who they know. Narcotics officers and informants are regularly paying around $600 a half ounce (14 grams) on the streets where I live.

Most of the people hauling large quantities of coke, or any other illegal drug for that matter, are "mules," people who are paid a fee for transporting the drugs but who do not own the drugs and who rarely know who actually does own them or who they are being sold to. The big dealers who can afford to traffic in large quantities always want a layer or two of folks below them who do not know who they are so that these people can't rat them out when they get caught. They actually expect to lose some loads and figure that in as a cost of doing business.

I live in a small county but police pull a few loads of coke every year weighing over a hundred pounds off the highway. Smaller loads of ten or twenty kilos are more the norm though. Marijuana loads of dozens or hundreds of pounds are not uncommon at all. A DEA agent told me a couple of weeks ago that there were tens of thousands of pounds of marijuana pulled off the highway in my county last year. Sometimes they don't even charge the mules if the mules can do a controlled delivery to wherever the drugs were going out east and help them bust the people who handle the mules, which might someday actually lead to a bust of the people who own the drugs. To avoid this now often there is a second vehicle that travels along with the vehicle carrying the drugs. The people in the clean car stay in contact with cell phones or radios and if the car with the drugs is stopped the clean car keeps going and warns the people who were supposed to take delivery of the drugs. The mules themselves are expendable, they are almost never even bailed out by the people who hire them and they certainly aren't provided with lawyers.

It may feel good to lock these people up for a long time, but people should know that what is happening is that the person getting sent to prison for all of these years is almost always a delivery driver who is getting paid a few thousand to run a load across the country. I'm not even sure how they pick these guys but often people who have never been in trouble before are recruited to make these runs. Sometimes they are not told what they are delivering. Usually they take no part in actually loading the drugs in the vehicle. They are either given the keys of a vehicle to drive or someone takes their vehicle for a few hours and brings it back later with drugs packed in a false compartment. Often even they know which drug they are carrying they don't know how much is there. Sometimes they are lied to and the vehicle is packed with coke or something else when they were told they were delivering marijuana. This happens because some don't want to deliver anything but pot or just as a way to cheat the driver because it usually pays more to haul coke than marijuana.

Something people should realize is that unfortunately there seems to be a never ending supply of people willing to do this sort of thing. They are promised a few thousand dollars or even that they'll get to keep the vehicle they are driving. Often times these are people in desperate financial condition and the promise of a few grand just to take a quick trip across the country is really tempting for them. The guys driving with large loads of pot are generally being paid between tow and ten thousand dollars, running cocaine pays even more.

I'm a public defender. At court tomorrow I'll be representing six people in three different cases involving alleged drug mules. These were all marijuana cases involving anywhere from thirty or so pounds on up to close to five hundred. All of these people will end up going to prison for a long time. All but one of my clients were passengers. All but one claim they knew nothing of the drugs in the trunk or in the false compartments. The one with the most is the one who sounds most believable because the pot was stashed in well hidden false compartments in a trailer he and another guy had been hired to haul out east. I have good evidence that he had been asked just the day before they set out on the trip to ride along by a shady guy he hadn't been working with long. They were hauling a legitimate load on the trailer as well and the guy swears to me he didn't know about the drugs or about the shady history of the other person in the truck who wanted him to trade off driving with him. My client intends to plead guilty though because he knows he'd get two or three times the prison sentence if a local jury found him guilty and a fine he would never be able to pay.

Juries here tend to find most all of these people guilty and max them out sentence-wise because of a strong drug war fervor people have here. I can't help but think it's all just a waste because drug prices have done nothing but gone down over the last couple of decades and so many times I have clients plead guilty who I suspect might actually not be guilty. I know most of them lie, but also I know that it makes sense that some of these people hired to run the drugs would bring helpers who didn't know about the drugs so they didn't have to split the big fee. Some of these people aren't exactly among the most honest folks you'd meet.
21 posted on 02/22/2004 12:15:58 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
I agree. Keep up the good work. I just like to torment Cathryn. ;-)
22 posted on 02/22/2004 12:33:10 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: TKDietz
I saw another article the other day about someone in Seattle, sentanced to 10 years for attempted possesion of a precurser substance (ergot) for LSD. 10 Years? not for possesion, not for sale, for attempted possesion of a presursor!!

Being a lawyer do you know off hand the average sentance for rape or murder? I think I read it was 3 1/2 years for rape. But damn you get 10 years if you even attempt to posses something that may be used to make drugs. Crazy!

23 posted on 02/23/2004 2:06:24 PM PST by bird4four4
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"I saw another article the other day about someone in Seattle, sentanced to 10 years for attempted possesion of a precurser substance (ergot) for LSD. 10 Years? not for possesion, not for sale, for attempted possesion of a presursor!!"

I'm no expert on manufacturing LSD but it is my recollection that this stuff is extremely difficult to manufacture. A gram of LSD crystal of average purity is enough to make around 10,000 hits of acid, which means each ounce would produce somewhere around 280,000 doses of LSD. LSD is not like meth in that it is easily made in small batches all over America. There are relatively few LSD labs and I have never heard of one that wasn't producing at least thousands of doses at a time.

If they had enough evidence to prove that this guy was obtaining a LSD precursors with the intent to manufacture LSD, you can almost bet that this guy was planning to produce thousands if not hundreds of thousands of doses. Ten years doesn't seem that unreasonable in that light.

"Being a lawyer do you know off hand the average sentence for rape or murder? I think I read it was 3 1/2 years for rape. But damn you get 10 years if you even attempt to posses something that may be used to make drugs. Crazy!"

I do not know the average sentence, but I will say that people often get longer sentences for relatively minor drug crimes than they do for serious violent or sexual crimes. The last few child molesters I have represented have all gotten suspended sentences. I just pled a guy today to 20 years with 10 of those being suspended for one possession of methamphetamine charge, and a separate delivery of methamphetamine and possession charge. He had less than a gram on him both times when he was busted and he only sold a half a gram ($50 dollars worth) to an undercover narc a "friend" of his brought over to his house on two occasions. He's an addict who did some small time dealing. He could have gotten 10 years each on the two possession charges and technically could have gotten 40 to life on each of what should have been two counts of delivery of meth. He got off easy.

This sort of thing happens all the time with drug charges. I have several pending cases where people will get fairly substantial pen time when they finally plead guilty. And almost all will plead guilty because drug cases are so easy to make stick. These are almost always cases where the guy basically gets his hand caught in the cookie jar. The only witnesses in these cases are often police officers who know exactly how to testify to win in court. They have built in credibility, unlike the civilian witnesses who the state must rely on in other types of cases. Most people charged with drug crimes here know they will almost assuredly be found guilty and that our juries here are notorious for handing out ungodly sentences for drug crimes, so very few ever risk a trial. Since the statutory sentences are so high here and since we all know what the likely outcome is when someone goes to court, people tend to take pretty much whatever the prosecutors offer in these drug cases.

Things are different with some of the violent crimes and sex cases. Often the state's witnesses have credibility problems. The players often have a history together and the victims and witnesses often have skeletons in their closets. There are often ulterior motives behind the accuser's story, or at least reasons for bias that we can expose. There are so many variables and so many things that can go wrong at trial. The prosecutors still win most of these cases, but they are aware of the increased possibility that they might lose and be embarrassed in the newspaper so they'll often offer much better deals in these much more serious cases. It's not fair but that's just the way things go.

Personally, I'd rather see the really dangerous people locked up a lot longer than the drug addicts caught selling a little or even cooking a little meth. I'd rather these people be forced into strict, regimented drug court programs where they will be drug tested so often they won't be able to cheat for long without getting caught and going to jail. A strict drug court program that lasts at least a year or more where these people receive counseling and sometimes some inpatient treatment and are forced to leave the stuff alone or suffer increasing jail sentences works better than prison. It's rare that I see straight prison make anyone a better person, but I've seen a lot come out a lot worse. A strict, well run drug court won't have anywhere close to a 100% success rate either, but it will help substantial numbers of people learn to live in their community without using drugs and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than warehousing these people in prison. Besides, I think that when drug using peers watch these people start looking better, putting on weight and putting their lives in order, it gives them hope that hey can do it too and inspires some to at least think about changing their ways.
24 posted on 02/23/2004 3:05:37 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
It's a rarity to hear someone talk common sense in the drug threads, instead of passing insults. Thanks for your insights.
25 posted on 02/24/2004 6:48:41 AM PST by bird4four4
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To: TKDietz
Just for the record, I really enjoyed your posts.
26 posted on 02/28/2004 9:56:02 PM PST by RKB-AFG
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To: RKB-AFG; bird4four4
Thanks.
27 posted on 02/28/2004 10:40:53 PM PST by TKDietz
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