Fort Bragg soldier flees to Canada [Traitor alert!]

Independent Weekly ^ | February 11, 2004 | Patrick O'Neill

[ODC-GIRL]

Unbelievable!

They need to extradite him, send him to Iraq and put him on the details that are dealing with the Mass Graves from Saddam's regime. See where that leads.....

[stylin19a]

Time to have the media ask John Kerry....
"What is your opinion on the desertion of Jeremy Hinzman ?"

Regardless of what Flippers' answer may be, the followup question should be:

"and how is Jeremy Hinzman's postition on this war any different than your position on Vietnam?

[B4Ranch]

Never insult a pussy!

If this kid was a conscientious objector, no sweat, become a MEDIC. We had two conscientious objectors in my battalion who joined, they weren't drafted, to become MEDICS.

This kid is a coward being led by the scrotum in the hands of his older wife.

[mrs tiggywinkle]

religious mutt?

[NYCVirago]

A story in the Feb. 7 edition of the Toronto Globe and Mail, says Hinzman is believed to be the first U.S. soldier to file for refugee status in Canada for refusing duty in Iraq. The report says Hinzman's case is "the first echo of the 12,000 deserters and 20,000 draft resisters who came north more than 30 years ago to escape the Vietnam War."

First echo? More like "first moron"!

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I don't know if this still applies but while I was driving cross country back in 1988, I heard an interesting news item. It said that during any future US war, Canada would send back any draft dodgers or deserters. It seems that during our war in Vietnam, they didn't get our "best and brightest" coming up there.

[CFC__VRWC]

There could be a Democratic senatorial run on the horizon for this guy.

Maybe by 2020 or so, once Hillary decides to relinquish her throne, the Rats will run him for president with John Walker Lindh as his running mate.

[Maximum Leader]

Well I can understand Canana's anti-death penalty position, I don't agree with their policy but we wouldn't deport someone to Malaysia to face a flogging, so fair is fair.

What does BUG me is Mexico's policy of not only refusing to deport American fugitives for death penalty crimes, but also refusing if the Mexican judge think the U.S. prison term they face is too long.

[Sapper26]

To me at least, Jan 17 was the day he left for basic, not the day he actually enlisted. It depends if the author really knows the difference.

If this guy had the guts to face a court martial I'd have had a little respect for him, but he's a two time coward - doesn't have the guts to go, doesn't have the guts to face the music.

[Stultis]

CONNECT THE DOTS, AMERICA!!!

If you read what the guy actually has to say, and the basis on which he justifies his actions, he sounds exactly like -- if not more moderate than! -- the mainstream Democratic Presidential candidates, or Democrat leaders like Terry McAulife and Al Gore, or senior sitting Democrat representatives like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi.

If this guy's a nut then so are they, and if he's a traitor then they are fomenting treason.

[cupcakes]

Agreed. Wonder if we can send them a collections notice for any benefits he received while in the military as well, especially any college benefits?

[cupcakes]

Agreed. Wonder if we can send them a collections notice for any benefits he received while in the military as well, especially any college benefits? I'm sure after all they won't mind putting their money where their big giant bleeding liberal hearts are.

[cupcakes]

My one word description of this guy: pussy

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LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing as I read what this guy said.

[imintrouble]

So I understand that this Quasi-Quaker, Buddhist believing gentleman made a few erroneous decisions in that he thought his schooling would be financed for doing ??? what did he think?

Did he think bombs and guns were decorations for the pretty tanks and humvees?

If he had strong pacific beliefs, he should have signed up for medic or some other service duties which would keep him from battlefield situations.

Maybe getting married caused him to lose his mind?
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On a positive note: Think of the lives he saved by fleeing in cowardice, rather than being a member of a patrol unit, who deserts at the critical moment.

[2banana]

If you read what the guy actually has to say, and the basis on which he justifies his actions, he sounds exactly like -- if not more moderate than! -- the mainstream Democratic Presidential candidates, or Democrat leaders like Terry McAulife and Al Gore, or senior sitting Democrat representatives like Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi.

The only thing different is that Terry, Al, Ted and Nancy will get a limo drive home to their million dollar mansion at the end of the day. Jeremy Hinzman is going to jail.

[cupcakes]

After high school, he decided not go to college because he was afraid of saddling himself with student debt and "starting a whole cycle of middle-class existence

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Geez, guy sounds like a nutjob from the beginning! Wonder why they had a baby if they didn't want to start a "whole cycle of middle-class existence".

[cupcakes]

The military mindset also fosters a rejection of feminist/maternal values, Hinzman said
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LOL, perhaps that's because most of the dictators and warlords our soldiers face don't really foster a maternal agenda either. What an absolute liberal idiot. His wife might as well be a lesbian since he's such a big p*ssy.

[Stultis]

I guess my question is: what is a soldier to do when he thinks that his sacrifice no longer for "God and country" but rather is used to fufil a political agenda (not necessarily saying that is the case here)? It takes a special kind of person to fight, and furthermore, most of our fighters will fight AND die for their country because they feel that they are doing their duty to God and country, but should we ask the same soldier to die for political reasons?

Of course I kind of see what you're getting at, but your question is nevertheless confusing.

Soldiers always go to war for political reasons. God and country? Well, yeah, but it's not as if military orders are handed down from heaven, or George Washingtons' opinion about Iraq can be determined by seance. It is invariably politicians, and invariably with some "agenda," who order soldiers to war.

[cupcakes]

This is pure politics. He doesn't like the administration and he doesn't like the war. Fine. However, running off to Canada seems like an incredibly stupid thing to do, considering that he had other options.
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Doesn't sound like he's thought many of his opinions or options out in life-why should this be any different?

[general_re]

In the immortal words of Sam Kinison, "I like the way you think..." ;)