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ZOT! How Free is Free Republic?
Kuro5hin ^ | 12/29/2003 | kuro5hin.org

Posted on 02/17/2004 2:36:48 PM PST by gboywa

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To: Cultural Jihad
My apologies. My response to your question was obviously too nuanced for someone with your diminutive intellect and obviously exciteable personality to readily understand.

"This isn't a game or a simulation. As you stated this is a thread glorifying ZOT. Some choose to do it by using the depiction of an American soldier getting blasted by a Tiger tank. I think it inappropriate, and have laid out a cogent case by the example above."

Games and sims are fine, because they are in context. And context is a term you introduced to this discussion.

Now then, when will you answer my question with a simple yes or no? Would a graphic depicting a successful IED attack against American soldiers in Baghdad be appropriate
for a ZOT thread? A ZOT is a ZOT right?

Better keep you away from setting the fuses, too.
181 posted on 02/18/2004 8:54:50 PM PST by IGOTMINE (All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
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To: sciencediet
I loved the cannon itself!
I was in artillery and loved every second of when we were actually doing fire missions.
Last I heard, Atomic Annie was sitting where I last saw her in pretty much pristine condition.
When I saw her, her paint still looked to be in good condition.
Not having seen one of her type in actual working condition I cannot say if she could be pulled off the pad and actually fired, but to my eyes I didn't see anything that would prevent her from being fired ever again.
Of course, I suspect that Fort Sill would take jealous pride in that particualr cannon, Fort Sill IS the home of artillery after all.
*chuckle*
182 posted on 02/19/2004 5:58:42 AM PST by Darksheare (Cry "Hammock!" and let slip the gerbils of war!)
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To: Darksheare
Fort Sill looks like a fun place. Is the museum on base or nearby? Not that I'm going too soon, Oklahoma wasn't on my immediate to-do list.
183 posted on 02/19/2004 7:57:07 AM PST by Lady Jag (It's in the bag)
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To: sciencediet
From where my barracks was, it was 'across post' from us, being that my training platoon was C 1/31 which was reflagged C 1/22 which inhabited the building by the old quarry.
To get to the museum we had to hit a taxi and go across post.
It was 'in' Fort Sill, but we were restricted in our movement for a bit to the immediate area up to the railroad tracks and the cannon gate.
Not sure as that helps, but it's close to the old post buildings across from clothing and sales.
(I honestly didn't pay attention to HOW I got there by taxi as I was there to pick up some uniform supplies and get back to the barracks. I payed more attention to the immediate surrounding area near my barracks. *chuckle*)
The answer to the question largely depends on whose definition of 'on post' you use.
For us, 'post' was up to the train tracks and nowhere else.
Fort Sill itself extended beyond that point, but those of us in Basic and AIT weren't allowed beyond certain limits until after a certain set point in our training and only then while out on pass.
The museum cannot be missed in all honesty.
It's got all the howitzers sitting outside cordoned off with yellow 'keep away' chains.
*chuckle*
So there's NO way to miss it while driving around.
Now whether or not they allow free travel into Sill after 9/11 I don't know.
I haven't been there since 18th Dec 1996 when I hit my flight out of there to come home and report to my home unit.
Some things may have changed between then and now, but I don't expect them to have moved the museum.
I do remember that if you hit the big "Main PX" you've gone too far.
184 posted on 02/19/2004 8:14:36 AM PST by Darksheare (Cry "Hammock!" and let slip the gerbils of war!)
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