Have the neocons killed a presidency?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | February 16, 2004 | Pat Buchanan

[goldstategop]

I am from the neo-conservative school. I object to how Pat Buchanan characterizes our influence on President Bush. The President is his own man; he's no one's puppet. The President has prosecuted the War On Terror and to overthrow Saddam Hussein for one reason: to make America safer. Its too bad paleos like Buchanan look for conspiracies where none exist.

[SunStar]

Yawn...

[Destro]

I am a classic conservative but in my eyes better to be a paleo then a neocon - something that orginiated from the Democratic party I want nothing to do with.

[Destro]

Deep sleep...

[goldstategop]

I am a former Democrat but so were Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston.

[marron]

I find it impossible to imagine that we would be at war with someone for 12 years and not consider removing him from power.

I find it impossible to imagine that after being at war with someone for 12 years we should feel guilty about removing him from power.

[Destro]

Neocons are still democrats - Perle for example.

[Destro]

We did more then remove him from power. We took his nation over - big difference.

[goldstategop]

Richard Perle's a nominal Democrat only out of loyalty to Henry "Scoop" Jackson. Its too bad he never got the Democratic nomination; he would have made a great President.

[goldstategop]

We handing over power by June 30th. We're determined not to repeat our mistakes in Vietnam and that of the Soviets in Afghanistan.

[Destro]

thanks for proving my point- neocons are loyal to their agenda not the the agenda of whatever party the belong to.

[MEG33]

We are trying to leave democracy instead of Saddam's tyranny in its place.Democratic regimes are easier to deal with and usually not enemies.

The oppressive theology and backward regimes need to be changed into hopeful,democratic governments where people don't seeth in hatred for lack of any hope.

It is an ideal but realistic as it will be good for us and the whole region eventually.

[goldstategop]

Pat Buchanan left the Republican Party and ran on the Reform ticket. Now who is being loyal to the agenda of the party one is supposed to belong to? At least I am still a Republican.

[MEG33]

I failed to mention how silly the word neo con is as it is tossed around nowadays.

Pat Buchanan lost,big time.

[nopardons]

Then Ronald Reagan is someone you want nothing at all to do with too, Right ?

[weegee]

President Bush won't lose the election over Iraq. His poll numbers would have been below 50% for many months if the war had provoked that much outrage.

Michael Moore is planning to release his ABCDisney financed October Surprise smear campaign film "Farenheit 911" when the election nears. THAT bit of propaganda may influence some voters. It doesn't have to be many, look at the hit that George W. Bush took in his support for the old DUI charge. Albert Gore Junior only got 0.52% more of the popular vote. Think that number might have been 1% more in George W. Bush's favor (+0.48% more of the popular vote for George Bush) if that story hadn't been leaked from his legal folder?

[goldstategop]

He didn't even win a single state in 2000 - running I believe with Ezola Foster.

[weegee]

I think that Pat Buchanan's an alright guy. In election 2000 he effectively stopped the siphoning of votes that Ross Perot's Reform Party had done twice before to the Republican Party. He also failed to get enough votes for the Reform Party to get matching funds this election.

Some point to an internal squabble in the Reform Party in 2000 but the other guy was no winner either.

[Destro]

That is exactly what neoconology is and that is NOT conservatisim as reflected in the foundations set for us by our Founding Fathers.

Revolution can not be imposed - despite what Trotsky said.