Clovis Man Turns 75, Plus 13,000

Gazette Times ^ | 2-12-2004 | Michelle Seeber

[blam]

Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)

[NRA2BFree]

>>Hillsman said the Clovis people could have eaten mammoth, but the importance of the find is that "Clovis man is the oldest well-documented evidence of early occupation" in North America.

I was born in Clovis. My dad was born and raised there. I spent many summers in Clovis with my grandparents. I've got lots of fond memories from those times. I haven't been back since my aunt died in 1987. Clovis is about 10 miles from the Texas state line. We used to go to rooster fights down in Lubbock. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. :) Btw, I didn't know the Clovis man. I just feel that old. lol..

[RightWhale]

Hillsman said. "We don't know specifically what the Clovis Man ate. We don't know what he wore. We don't know what he looked like. We've never found any skeletal evidence of these people

Hmmm. Ideal candidates for President.?

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Clovis: The candidate with no past, created perfect just this year.

[donozark]

BUMP!

[Saundra Duffy]

Clovis is a city near Fresno in California. Ha!

[genefromjersey]

Clovis man was NOT first: a fact that has been proven over and over;not that that deters the stubborn handful who resist the truth.

It's a bit like some of the academics who still insist Marxism is the wave of the future:they said so,and they published reams of papers,and staked their reputations on the premise,therefore,they cannot be wrong !

As to the "Solutrian Solution"....very few take it seriously-tempting as it might be.

[Chris Talk]

Humans were at the Meadowcroft rockshelter of Avella, PA, near the WV state line west of Pittsburgh, 19000 years ago.

They were also at Cactus Hill near Petersburg, Va. in that same time frame. It is this site that is most convincing for Solutrean contact. It is not surprising to me that Solutrean artifacts and culture could remain in use by the few who had crossed the Atlantic, well after such had been replaced by other styles of artifact in Europe.

[Chris Talk]

My mother had an uncle whose first name was Clovis.

[Boot Hill]

RightWhale:   "Clovis: The candidate with no past, created perfect just this year."

And not surprisingly, Clovis Man is a registered Democrat that has voted in the last 12 presidential elections!

--Boot Hill

[Boot Hill]

Darn good post, blam!

I was especially taken with the recitation of all the currently extinct, animals that existed only 13,000 years ago. Some of the "sky is falling" ecologists, the "endangered species" charlatans and especially the "kill your SUV" climatologists should take note of this and (if it's not asking too much) learn from it.

From the article:
saber-toothed tigers, dire wolves, giant Columbian mammoths (14 feet at the shoulder, weighing 8 to 10 tons), giant horses, camels, giant ground sloths and big turtles.

Were these extinctions caused by...
Natural climate fluctuations?
Natural selection?
Natural predation?
Natural disease?
Their "time" had just come and gone?
Over hunting by the indigenous peoples of America, who we are told did not selfishly ravage the environment and were more in tune with nature?

And about climate...
Wells dug by Clovis Man have been found at Blackwater Draw that indicate climate fluctuations and variable water tables in one of the most stable spring-fed lakes of the past.

Imagine that, climate can (and does) change all on its own without any help from man! Will wonders never cease?

--Boot Hill

[blam]

"Over hunting by the indigenous peoples of America."

Not IMO.

[farmfriend]

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[woofie]

Clovis Man? Buddy Holly?

[blam]

"Clovis Man? Buddy Holly?"

Close but, I think Buddy was in Lubbock. "Maybe Baby"

[woofie]

He recorded in Clovis though.... I worked out there for a while and the dam wind blows all the time Its miserable

[JimSEA]

Maybe Clovis Man scavenged the mammoths, some have speculated.

I can recall some Mammoth bones which had these beautiful spear points embeded in the bone. The bones were from a dig in the San Pedro Valley. These Clovis points and mammoth bones were on display for many years at the Arizona State Museum at the University of Arizona. That would seem strong evidence that these people were quite skillful hunters.

[blam]

Yup. I've read about those...but, I don't think there were enough humans around to do all that killing of so many species.

[JimSEA]

Yes, I would agree with you totally there. If millions of Indians (Pre-European introduction of smallpox, etc. could not kill of the buffalo with their tactics of driving whole heards over cliffs, a few thousand Clovis hunters wouldn't have much dented the large glacial and post-glacial animals (no matter how skillful they were). The climate changes were massive enough to trigger extinctions without our help.

[Porterville]

I hate Clovis, but the college chix sure are fun to play with!!