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The 3rd terrorist: Mideast tie to OKC bombing
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 2/12/04 | worldnetdaily.com

Posted on 02/12/2004 4:06:32 AM PST by ovrtaxt

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To: Battle Axe
Good find, not a mention of revenge for Waco which we was lead to believe was the reason for OK City Bombing.

21 posted on 02/12/2004 6:55:45 AM PST by Swiss
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To: Battle Axe
This sounds like it was written by Saddam's Propaganda Ministry. So, in other words, this was done for Saddam's benefit there is nothing in it about any kind of "Right wing" concerns. No mention of Waco or the Dravidian slaughter or being directed at the fedgov for ANY reason other than its war with Saddam.

That alone means Iraq had a hand in it.
22 posted on 02/12/2004 6:59:40 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I'm gonna get this book.
23 posted on 02/12/2004 6:59:50 AM PST by petercooper ("daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime" - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: wayoverontheright
Two years ago, Arlen Specter was confronted in his Capitol Hill office on live radio by Michael Smirconish (1210 AM Philadelphia) and Jayne Davis about this. Specter promised to look into her claims, but still nothing....

I followed up last year, but got no response from anyone on Specter's staff.
24 posted on 02/12/2004 7:41:46 AM PST by Jeff Gannon (Listen to my radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington" on www.RIGHTALK.com)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; Issaquahking; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; ...
"acts morally equivilent"

Iraqi agents "turned" McVeigh who was shaken by the "Highway of Death" pictures. He came to see his own nation as a "Bully!" Once disallusioned, he really went off the "deep end" when he saw Waco!!!

This is really NOT hard to understand when you understand that the enemies of America ALWAYS use their most powerful weapon (moral equivalance) to make the greatest nation ever to exist, look somehow hipocritical!!!

Weak minded younger individuals fall for this in their search for "fairness" and "justice!" They are indoctrinated with this "sense of fairplay" from kindergarten to military service and then scenes of combat just "blows their minds" in some cases and "turns them off" toward their own country.

Just like John F'n Kerry!!!

25 posted on 02/12/2004 7:50:09 AM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Battle Axe
It also reads like something written by Noam Chomskey, writer of leftist bilge. Doesn't read like militia "right wing" stuff at all.

Seems like McVey was "turned", but by whom ? A connection of the treasonous Left with Saddam ?

They were certainly his supporter via protest organizations like A.N.S.W.E.R.

How clever of the Left to divert responsibilty to the Crazy Right-Wingers.

I think that Saddam and his infiltrated Iraqis had a finger in this, but the takeover of MccVey's political outlook bears the mark of leftist ideology.

26 posted on 02/12/2004 7:56:54 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Battle Axe
whoa!

thanks for posting that. pretty stunning that he talks about nothing but Iraq.
27 posted on 02/12/2004 8:00:04 AM PST by rake
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To: RinaseaofDs
lol, you know he made a point of visiting every single state before his term was up. What's with that? Nice vacation, I just wish he had done some work.
28 posted on 02/12/2004 8:55:47 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: SierraWasp
Wasp,

Your sting is exactly correct as per usual! Those that are jealous of us to the extreme are not totally stupid - they seek stupid (aka useful idiots) out to do their dirty work out for them. Useful idiots are just like the frog in the pot being heated - they only "get it" when it's too late....currently the battle has been overseas for the most part, I have to wonder when the peaceniks and far left goofballs are going to get it? Most likely when the terrorists do smack us again in the homeland, they will relize that it is their fault for preventing what needs to be done to defend the homeland. One has to maintain vigilance at all times, on all fronts - just like our forefathers tried to warn us about in the Declaration of Independence and in writing the Constitution!

If there is any doubt to useful idiots and the extent that they will go to - remember that -

A vote for John 'F'ing Kerry is a vote for UBL, the U.N. etc.,etc...
29 posted on 02/12/2004 9:13:04 AM PST by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: ovrtaxt
This is justification for Saddam's overthrow right here, never mind the WMD or the tyranny.

Let me get this straight, because this phantom bomber was a former member of the Iraqi army, that alone justifies overthowing Saddam? What army was McVeigh in? Maybe we should topple them too.

30 posted on 02/12/2004 9:13:58 AM PST by Kleon
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To: isasis
ping
31 posted on 02/12/2004 9:14:02 AM PST by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: Kleon
What army was McVeigh in?An excellent question! Why don't you read post #19 for the answer?
32 posted on 02/12/2004 9:39:18 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You got an extra Koran? I'm like totally out of toilet paper.)
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To: Issaquahking; rake; FreeAtlanta; Battle Axe; SierraWasp; happygrl; Jeff Gannon; knarf; All
I guess I'll be the first to mention the name 'Scott Ritter' on this thread.
33 posted on 02/12/2004 9:41:24 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You got an extra Koran? I'm like totally out of toilet paper.)
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To: ovrtaxt; swarthyguy; justshutupandtakeit; Battle Axe
From this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1076594/posts

When linguist Sibel Dinez Edmonds showed up for her first day of work at the FBI, a week after the 9-11 attacks, she expected to find a somber atmosphere. Instead, she was offered cookies filled with dates from party bowls set out in the room where other Middle Eastern linguists with top-secret security clearance translate terror-related communications.

She knew the dessert is customarily served in the Middle East at weddings, births and other celebrations, and asked what the happy occasion was. To her shock, she was told the Arab linguists were celebrating the terrorist attacks on America, as if they were some joyous event. Right in front of her supervisor, one translator cheered:

"It's about time they got a taste of what they've been giving the Middle East."

She found out later that it was her supervisor's wife who helped organize the office party there at the bureau's Washington field office, just four blocks from the J. Edgar Hoover Building.

"This guy's wife brought the date-filled cookies for the celebration," Edmonds, 33, recalled.

At the time, the supervisor, Mike Feghali, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Beirut, was in charge of the FBI's Turkish and Farsi desks.

But he's been promoted since then, and now also runs the all-important Arabic desk, which is key to intercepting the next al-Qaida plot.

It gets worse.

The language service squad is the front line in the FBI's war on terrorism, collecting all foreign language tips, information and terrorist threats to homeland security. Agents act on what the squad translates and reports. The sooner they get the information, the sooner they can thwart terrorist attacks. Investigators had missed clues to both the 2001 and 1993 World Trade Center attacks because they were buried in a backlog of untranslated wiretaps and documents in Arabic.

Despite the backlog, Feghali told Edmonds and other translators to just let the work pile higher, according to Edmonds. Why? Money. She says Feghali, who has recruited family and friends to work with him at the high-paying language unit, argued that Congress would approve an even bigger budget for it if they could continue to show big backlogs.

"We were told to take long breaks, to slow down translations, and to simply say 'no' to those field agents calling us to beg for speedy translations so that they could go on with their investigations and interrogations of those they had detained," said Edmonds, who was fired without specified cause by the FBI after she reported breaches in security, mistranslations and potential espionage by Middle Eastern colleagues.

She claims Feghali actually tampered with her work to slow her down.

"My supervisor went as far as getting into my work computer and deleting almost completed work so that I had to go back and start all over again," she said.

Edmonds, a Turkish-American who is not a practicing Muslim, made the allegations last month in a 9-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

She also claims that Feghali threatened to sue the bureau for racial discrimination, but dropped the suit once the bureau promoted him, says Edmonds and other sources. The FBI, which like the army suffers from a severe shortage of Arabic translators, instated a bureau-wide Muslim-sensitivity training program after 9-11.

Reached by phone at his Maryland home, Feghali was brusque and refused to talk about the allegations.

"I'm not at liberty to discuss this thing, OK?" he said before abruptly hanging up.

The spokesperson for the FBI's Washington field office, Debbie Weierman, did not return repeated phone calls.

Feghali, who holds several foreign language degrees, has been an FBI language specialist for several years. He was a key translator in the government's case against al-Qaida operatives charged in the U.S. embassy bombing in Kenya, and even testified in court.

Sources say he is planning to move back to Lebanon.

A key player in the 9-11 plot and the likely pilot of United Airlines Flight 93, the suicide plane that crashed apparently en route to the U.S. Capitol, was Ziad Samir Jarrah, a Lebanese.

Edmonds has also complained about Feghali and other Middle Eastern translators to the Justice Department inspector general.

And on Wednesday, she is scheduled to give a detailed briefing to members of the 9-11 commission in a secure room here.

She claims terrorist "investigations are being compromised," and has demanded an independent probe of the FBI's language department.

"If there were, and are, persons within the language department that either intentionally prevented translation because of their agendas, or persons who were, and are, not qualified to properly translate, it is likely that terrorist communications prior to 9-11 were missed; and it is likely that current and future terrorist communications will likewise be missed," Edmonds wrote Justice's Inspector General Glenn A. Fine in a Jan. 5 letter. "I have alleged, and the FBI has confirmed (to Senate investigators), that there are in fact such persons in the language department."

Fine still has not released the findings of his internal probe, even though Edmonds first filed her complaint with his office almost two years ago. Speaking for Fine, Justice official Carol Ochoa said the investigation is "still ongoing."

"We are working hard to complete it expeditiously," she said in a Jan. 6 letter to Edmonds.

34 posted on 02/12/2004 9:58:11 AM PST by happygrl
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To: ovrtaxt
Scott Bitter? wait till some of the others start coming up on the screen...

You can borrow my koran, it really works! It's taken so much $hit that I've became there leading salesman!

/sarcasm>
35 posted on 02/12/2004 10:04:07 AM PST by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: happygrl; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone
Hey! Where'd this come from? The URL you provided is the URL for this thread, right here!!!

You just sent me on a circular "Wild Goose Chase" that didn't tell me a thing, except that I'm an idiot for simply not looking up at the address I was already at!!! (grin)

Come back here and give me a legitimate URL because I wanna know where this story came from. It's intensely interesting!!!

I sure hope Tom Ridge and the heads of FBI and CIA are aware of this bureaucratic threat to national security if it's true!!!

36 posted on 02/12/2004 5:36:35 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: happygrl
"...but the takeover of MccVey's political outlook bears the mark of leftist ideology."

Probably yes, but maybe not. I've encountered many on both ends of the spectrum that have "gone around the bend" so far that they run into themselves coming around the other end!!!

The politics of envy, resentment, fairness and moral superiority are the most dangerous when they come in contact with any unstable or traumatized individual that feels ostracized from society and lonely. Even terrorists understand this and prey on such individuals to provide the perfect, untraceable cover!!!

37 posted on 02/12/2004 5:48:16 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1075802/posts

Please accept my humble apologies.

I confuse myself sometimes.

38 posted on 02/12/2004 5:49:11 PM PST by happygrl
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To: ovrtaxt
I just heard a report on ABC radio national news at top of the hour, that THEY'RE REOPENING THE FBI's INVESTIGATION to determine if more than McVey and Nichols were involved!!!
39 posted on 02/27/2004 8:12:10 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: Issaquahking
A resurrection PING!!! (sounds like maybe)
40 posted on 02/27/2004 8:14:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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