Conservatives Need to Get Real

The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

[KantianBurke]

U sure Bush doesn't need our votes? Judging from the latest polls he's going to need all that he can get. Ironic when you consider how much pandering he's done to so many different groups. And what has it availed him? Nada.

[Henrietta]

"Abandon this President, who's done nothing to deserve it. "

Really? Bush has:

--Voiced support for Assualt Weapons Ban renewal.
--Knowingly signed unconstitutional campaign-finance reform bill into law, saying that the Courts would take care of it.
-- Signed into law the Patriot Act, thus jeapordizing the 4th and 6th amendment rights of Americans.
-- Enacted a prescription drug plan for the most affluent demographic in the US. The rest of us will have to figure out how to pay for this, eventually.
-- Proposed amnesty for illegal immigrants, which sent crossings at the border up dramatically, according to the Border Patrol.

Oh, no, he's done NOTHING to raise the ire of conservatives. We're all just being mean. /sarcasm.

[billbears]

the democrats' allegiance to the UN

So the administration calling for and rejoining the pro-abortion UNESCO, that this nation of states quit during the Reagan administration, was just stealing away a Democrat issue then?

[Henrietta]

"Masturbatory vote --- "

Oh, dear...can we say that here on FR...? (wink, wink!)

[Wolfstar]

It involves having principles and sticking to them.

Define for me what those "real" conservative principles are, and perhaps we can move past name-calling.

[Democratshavenobrains]

Where were the Conservative defectors when Reagan failed to abolish the Department of Education?

[swarthyguy]

Very well articulated. Reads like the talking points in the near future.

And I have this picture of taking the last issue from the Dems, maybe calling it Laura!Care.

Bush may even be able to run on the cultural divide caused by what happens about gay marriage in MA. That's a potential sledgehammer for him.

[onyx]

I wrote you off the day I got you to admit that Jesse Helms fell short of your "conservative" criteria.

Discussions with you are a waste of MY time.

[Howlin]

Oh, no, he's done NOTHING to raise the ire of conservatives.

Ah, WE are conservatives, too. We just don't agree with your short-sighted, narrow-minded tunnel vision.

We're all just being mean.

What you're being is ridiculous. You'll get NOTHING by sitting home, but you know that, don't you?

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

Intertesting use of "they" instead of we.....hmmmm..........I wonder what it could possibly mean Moby, sorry, I mean Sloth.

[F16Fighter]

"We should not delude ourselves into thinking that the GOP is going to pursue any real progress on conservative issues even after that [60 GOP seats in the Senate] is accomplished."

This is what is disturbing.

I'd like to see a definitive platform of goals and agenda of the "new" Republican Party, but I'm afraid that it will forevermore be a "work in progress," contingent upon polls and demographics.

[onyx]

LOL! I've been able to use the word here, although I was forced to remove it from my tagline a while back.

[azhenfud]

"2. Our national security will never depend upon permission from another country."

You think not? Why'd President Bush meet Vincent Fox before his SOTU address? He wanted to be sure not to offend Fox with his Illegration proposal.

Sorry. I'm convinced otherwise - at least until the seive called the Southern Border is CLOSED and our CURRENT immigration laws' enforcement is made more of a priority than it is presently. We don't need or want Fox's permission to guard our Southern Border. We want lawmakers giving law enforcement the tools and leadway to do their job and for lawmakers and judges to quit their obstruction of justice.

[George W. Bush]

Yawn. Yall have never liked President Bush. Your votes won't be missed, because he never had them!

In fact, he did have my vote in 2000 (in one of the three all-Red states). And he hasn't lost it yet.

But he does seem to be trying to lose it.

I think we conservatives, both social and economic types, have been patient to a fault.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Now that Bush has unmasked himself as Dem lite, I'll not vote for him.

So you'll get Kerry. That must be what you really want, because you seem very determined to make it happen.

I wouldn't mind you living with Kerry as CinC - but if you succeed, then I must live with it too.

That's a problem for me. A big one.

[tiki]

So is Kerry your choice for president?

There is not a thing wrong with voicing your displeasure and disagreement with Bush on some issues and there is nothing wrong with writing him a letter and letting him know your feelings. He might even listen if he get enough input.

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

Don't you feel so much better now that a few fellow Freepers have told you who the "real" conservatives are?? I know I do! You and I can sit back on election day and, if some on this board have their way, watch an all out socialist get elected just so these wonderful conservatives can prove how brilliant and powerful they are and call us unprincipled.

It has not stopped amazing me how morally superior these "real" conservatives are.

[KantianBurke]

Good idea. CONTRACT WITH AMERICA PART II please. Don't know if Dubya will go for it though. Conservative promises like that would get in the way of doling out millions to Laura for the perverted arts.

[Jim Cane]

What is a "principled" conservative?

One who believes in reducing the size and scope of the present federal government to accord with it's Constitutionally enumerated powers.

No Child Left Behind? Senior Prescription Drugs...the biggest new entitlement since Medicare? Please...he makes LBJ, Nixon and Clinton look like a Scotsmen with their wallets sown shut.

[Sloth]

Here is my exact quote:

"Now it's 'Just you wait til we get 60 seats in the Senate!' When and if we do, I'm sure they will think up some other excuse."

"We" means Republicans. "They" means what are commonly called Bushbots around here.

And I've been active around here for more than two years longer than you, Barbra.