Floating crane maneuvered near sunken World War II era German warship off Uruguay

WCCO News Online / AP ^ | 2/9/04 | BILL CORMIER

[Johnny Gage]

WWII History Bump

[Johnny Gage]

Ping.

[martin_fierro]

¡HUIJA, PO!

[Puppage]

The Admiral Graf Spee

[SAMWolf]

Thanks Johnny. Nice to keep up with this story.

[blam]

Divers Aim To Raise Graf Spree

[Professional Engineer]

Cool. Thanks Johnny.

[Soaring Feather]

Thanks Johnny and bump.

[Johnny Gage]

Thanks. I did do a search on several words from title.

*oh well*

: )

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks Johnny. It will be interesting to see what's left of her.

[Semper Paratus]

The German strategy of using heavy warships to disrup sea born supplies was a miserable failure. If the resources were put into more U-Boats the Battle of the Atlantic would have been very different.

[Old Sarge]

"was a miserable failure"

To say nothing of a risky scheme... (G)

I have agreed with the U-boat alternate war for a long time. There was a quote from Grand Admiral Doenitz, something that, if there were fifty more U-boats on station in 1939, Britain would've starved.

[Semper Paratus]

if there were fifty more U-boats on station in 1939, Britain would've starved.

I think he said a hunndred, but if the heavy ships including the Bismarck were never built in favor of more U-boats that would have made the nut.

[Eastbound]

Not too awfully far from where I sailed in '46. Didn't get that far south.

http://www.grafspee.com/

[blam]

"Thanks. I did do a search on several words from title. "

No problem...just wanted to add to the thread and give it a bump. FReep on!

[Tallguy]

The German strategy of using heavy warships to disrup sea born supplies was a miserable failure. If the resources were put into more U-Boats the Battle of the Atlantic would have been very different.

I think that what the German Navy was trying to do was force the allies onto the horns of a dilemma: U-boat attacks force the merchant marine into convoys, but the convoys in turn are easy pickings for a heavy surface raider (like Graf Spee). There were attempts to disrupt the arctic convoys from occupied Norway in this manner. The strategy might have worked if the communications between surface and sub-surface raiders had been more effective AND the British not had sufficient battleships to accompany the convoys. Neither was the case, as it turned out.

[Semper Paratus]

I think that what the German Navy was trying to do was force the allies onto the horns of a dilemma:

The German High Seas Navy tried to do what they could do but they knew the correalation of forces vis a vis the British Royal Navy was way against them.

When the US came in they pretty much retired their surface ships.

[Khurkris]

I seem to remember pistols, .45acp & 38 super, touted as being made from steel from the Graf Spee coming from Argentina back in the 60's-70's. Supposedly better quality beacause they were made from fine German steel.

Any comments on this?

[Khurkris]

Allow me to debunk my own myth.

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