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Twenty-one Reasons Why Bush Will Win
ElectionProjection.com ^ | 2/7/04 | Scott Elliot

Posted on 02/09/2004 7:52:44 AM PST by NYC Republican

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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
"A little infighting and your version of the "proper" punishment and we'll all suffer. I'll admire your great backbone while I watch our world collapse around us, more babies will die and our boys overseas will be in greater danger but WOW is Your backbone HUGE!!!!"

Yeah, I guess we shouldn't demand that Republicans hold true to conservative principles, should we? We should just be glad that they have that R after their name, and just vote for them, no matter what they say or do...after all, they're Republicans! /sarcasm

Gutless Republicans like you make the libs squeal with delight; it means Republicans can act like Dems and still get your vote.
201 posted on 02/09/2004 6:14:29 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: jstolarczyk; All
Get a new job, I did. We are only debating unemployment because of all the weenies on this site complaining.

I'm not talking about a personal situation...but commonly expressed attitudes among people I interact with daily.

Against Dean, the 21 points would be valid...against Kerry [Kohn], they don't count!!

202 posted on 02/09/2004 6:19:06 PM PST by Lael (Offshore Outsourcing will be solved politically...the process for CEO's will "end badly" !!)
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To: jstolarczyk
>>Dignity is subjective as are our opinions, fallible or not economists deal with fact.

Economist deal with fact and theory.

>>You are a commodity, the CEO is a commodity, unless you own your own business, in which case your employees are a commodity.

That's a very sad view.

>>No touchy feely, peace love good time rock and roll philosophy changes that

No hard line, business is a religion, man-is-a-commodity philosophy changes the human dignity.

The idea that man is a commodity is itself a philisophical opinion. It's roots lie in a tarnished concept of mankind, the purpose of man, and the lust for money.
203 posted on 02/09/2004 8:34:39 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Galtoid
63%! Good on 'em!
204 posted on 02/09/2004 8:50:05 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.")
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To: NYC Republican
number 11 should be "reapportionment" of congressional seats not "redistricting".
205 posted on 02/09/2004 8:50:41 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: NYC Republican
I quickly skimmed through the thread and I may be wrong but there is another factor that hasn't been brought up. Namely a trial of Saddam Hussein. This could work both ways but I imagine if it is conducted before the election and widespread coverage is given to his attrocities and mass murder it could have the potential to elevate Bush in the eyes of the electorate to grant a landslide in the election. It would be the trial of the still young century.
206 posted on 02/09/2004 9:18:00 PM PST by xp38
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To: 1stFreedom
Man, as a being is not a commodity, man as a worker is a commodity and has been throughout recorded history.
207 posted on 02/09/2004 9:32:37 PM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk)
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To: jstolarczyk
>>Man, as a being is not a commodity, man as a worker is a commodity and has been throughout recorded history.

Man is not inseperable from his being, even as a worker.

Man as an individual being is deserving of respect and consideration regardless of his employment status or the relation he has to his superiers.
208 posted on 02/09/2004 10:15:49 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Havoc
You tell me how I'm supposed to stand up for those who won't stand up for me and I'll pass it along to those who are grumbling around me at work and at play.


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Believe me, I know where you are speaking from - sorry about how it's been going. But Havoc, this has happened in many industries. In 1998, thousands of jobs in states such as Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming and Louisiana were lost in the oil industries - whole families were destroyed.

And you know what? The rest of The United States did not care - not as long as they got their good clean air and satisfied environmental wackos. The govermnet has made everyones jobs some sort of special interest. - It is done to divide us.

President Bush is a good man, he does not try to please the polls, rather he tries to do what is best for the USA. Hang in there, things can get better - our voices can be heard, but not if we fall into despair.

If we despair instead of keeping our voices heard (however small we think they are) then the enemy wins.

All the best. Seriously.





209 posted on 02/10/2004 6:48:21 AM PST by Iron Matron (Give me time, I'll think of something)
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To: Iron Matron
This should say: (what a blooper!)

And you know what? The rest of The United States did not care - not as long as they got their CHEAP GASOLINEand good clean air and satisfied

environmental wackos < ENVIRONUT SARCASM
210 posted on 02/10/2004 6:51:29 AM PST by Iron Matron (Give me time, I'll think of something)
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To: 1stFreedom
All these reasons don't mean squat to people whose jobs have been outsourced overseas.

I'm tired of hearing from the liberal media that all the unemployed will be out in droves and be voting W out. Go out and re-train and get a job. Get into a field that is growing. Learn a trade. Get yourself more marketable. And take a pt job or 2 or 3 in the meantime. Jeesh

211 posted on 02/10/2004 6:55:21 AM PST by petercooper (Tone down the garbage, the mean-mouthing, the tearing down of your neighbor and being so pompous.)
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To: Henrietta
I am hardly a SIC. Yes I am military and yes I support Bush. Because:

1. Partial Birth Abortion ban will appear before the Supreme Court soon and I want an Administration that will fight for it.
2. I want teachers to teach and stop forcing their values on children, especially Christian children often the focus of criticism. I want an Administration that will fight the "Exclusion Clause" being redefined and used against Christians.
3. I could care less about what an individual does in private. However even in my little town there have been conflicts with the school board over gay issues being endorsed in the High School. I want an administration that will fight to protect marriage.
4. I want a President the will appoint constructionist judges on the Supreme Court, not liberal activist judges.
5. I want an Administration that will continue to push military reforms.
6. I want terrorism stopped, and I prefer to fight them outside of my state. I want a President willing to stand-up to the French not one related to them.
7. I want lower taxes
9. I am tired of PC and I am tired of having history rewritten. Since the DEMS lost power they have stopped trying to rewrite the Reagan years or make George Washington a evil slave owner.
10. I want a President willing to stand up to the UN.
11. I do not want to be subjected to the World Criminal Court.
12. I want a President that opposes NGOs having influence in this country.
13. I do not want Kyoto ratified.
14. I want China to not invade Taiwan. I want a President that the Chinese view with caution, not one they feel they are in bed with.
15. I want a Strong President of conviction, character and strong faith.
16. I want a President that is for growth and will stand-up to Unions if they are in the way.
17. I want this country to remain the last major industrial nation that encourages faith vice European secularism, therefore I want a President with a strong faith in God.
18. I want a President to stand-up to the green nuts that in some cases commit terrorist acts in this country.
I do not agree with all Bush does, but I know Kerry will not do or represent any of the above.
I am asking allot of Bush. So you can stick the your; you only support Bush because you are Military attitude in your "ditty bag". By in large those in harms way do support this President. Funny, they have more to lose than you, yet they support him and you don't.
212 posted on 02/10/2004 7:20:26 AM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk)
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To: petercooper
>>Go out and re-train and get a job.

It's not as simple as you put it. Given a persons age, experience, etc, retraining may not do anything for them.

>>Get into a field that is growing. Learn a trade. Get yourself more marketable. And take a pt job or 2 or 3 in the meantime. Jeesh

Many of the fields require years of training. How can one go to school and pay the mortgage payments, child support, etc? It's very easy to say such things but in reality it's not so simple.

However, I would agree that it's a good idea to do what you suggest. But it's easier said than done.

(BTW, working 3 minimum wage jobs won't pay the rent where I live).
213 posted on 02/10/2004 7:29:28 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
nobody ever said life was easy or fair
214 posted on 02/10/2004 7:31:10 AM PST by petercooper (daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: petercooper
>>nobody ever said life was easy or fair

True, but that's not the issue.
215 posted on 02/10/2004 8:42:16 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: jstolarczyk
"So you can stick the your; you only support Bush because you are Military attitude in your "ditty bag"."

How eloquent!

"By in large those in harms way do support this President. Funny, they have more to lose than you, yet they support him and you don't."

I think every citizen has a lot to lose when their party refuses to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States. You are not somehow "anointed" because of your military service, and your service does not somehow make your opionion more worthy or less worthy than mine.

I thought it interesting that you want lower taxes, and you list that as one of your reasons for voting for Bush. Pray tell how massively increased govt spending results in lower taxes...I'm sure we'd all enjoy hearing your version of that!
216 posted on 02/10/2004 9:27:01 AM PST by Henrietta
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To: Henrietta
This article sums up my reasons for my disappointment with Bush...

THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY

By Mary Starrett
February 7, 2004

NewsWithViews.com

...is repeating the same behavior and expecting different results. We must be certifiable because that's what we did in 2000 and it appears that's what we'll be doing again in 2004.

Republicans have controlled both the executive and legislative branches of government for most of Bush's last four years. That's the first time the Grand Old Party's been in charge to that degree for almost 50 years. You'd think that would be a slam-dunk for our side. No such luck. In the last four years we've watched as First Amendment, Second Amendment and Fourth Amendment guarantees have slowly been eroded.

We wanted to make sure the carnage of abortion stopped - so we voted for a Republican. The killing continues.

We voted for a Republican because we wanted a reigning-in of federal spending. We now have the most bloated federal budget in the history of the Republic. No longer the party of fiscal discipline, the R's have become de facto pig farmers with all the pork projects they've funded. That used to be something we pinned on the D's.

We voted for a Republican because we wanted better schools for our children. Instead we got the most intrusive federal program to date in a scheme called "No Child Left (Alone) Behind".

Yes, the GOP had a wonderful opportunity to get us back on track. They blew it.

President Bush's patently un-Constitutional Medicare prescription entitlement debacle is one program even the Democrats would have had a hard time getting away with. To make matters worse, YOU, my friend are paying, with your hard-earned tax dollars, over $12.5 million for 30 second TV commercials "explaining" the "benefit" to older Americans. This is nothing but a shameless election year ploy to get you to think the president, in all his altruism has you covered on the medicine front. By the by, just WHERE in the Constitution does it say the federal government has the authority to take your money and then redistribute it to pay for drugs that, more often than not, make people sicker than they were before they started taking them?

During the last administration when the government was divided we saw less damage done to the country in terms of liberties lost. Hard to believe we can say that of what went on during the Clinton administration.

Today on CNN president Bush spoke of "bringing democracy and freedom" to the people of Iraq. I found that odd. When Bush had the opportunity to promote "democracy and freedom" for the free-Chinese in Taiwan he sided with the brutal regime in Beijing and told the Taiwanese to stand down in their efforts at free elections. The regime he defended at the expense of the tiny island was the same one that threatened to lob missiles at Los Angeles a few years back and the same one that first held a US military jet hostage, then dismantled it looking for spy secrets.

Nice going, GW.

It may be stating the obvious, but we had more checks on this out of control animal our government has become when the R's were the opposition party. By the way, for those who think you have no choice come November, remember the definition of insanity once again. If you repeat the same behavior (voting for Bush) you'll continue to get what you've gotten: Government from the Gulag whereby Patriot Acts and Homeland Security agencies strip us of liberty in a most disquieting way.

A recent poll on WorldNetDaily.com asked readers if they'd vote for Judge Roy Moore should he run as a third party candidate against Bush. What is there to talk about? A man who would give up prominence and defy a federal court for Christian principle (which is what this Republic was founded on) would be a de-luxe president in my mind.

My guess is the judge won't run- not to send a message to Bush- or for any other reason. That's why I'm voting for the Constitution Party candidate instead of Bush.

The moral imperative says I can not cast a vote for a de facto pro-abortion, anti-gun globalist when a man of sound principle like Michael Peroutka is running.(www.peroutka2004.com) I agree with him on every issue. I had a chance to interview Mr. Peroutka on a radio show I did yesterday and I was mightily encouraged. Not because I think he'll win. He won't. Not as long as Americans continue to believe they're " wasting" their votes by voting for someone who represents them.

You "wasted' your vote the last time, when you voted for Bush. Don't waste it again. Remember, if we continue to repeat the same behavior expecting different results, then we are truly insane.

And the lesser of two evils is still…evil.

© 2004 Mary Starrett - All Rights Reserved

217 posted on 02/10/2004 10:08:37 AM PST by Henrietta
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To: inquest
Re your post 133, sorry to be so late. I was out of town for the day.

To the best of my knowledge, the H1B program was enacted by Congress. The executive branch administers it.
218 posted on 02/10/2004 2:22:42 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Purdue Pete
I lost my job as a software developer in sept. 2001, have not been able to work in IT ever since. I lost my house, one vehicle, my credit was trashed, and had to declare bankrupcy; still, I will never vote for kerry or any other leftist.
219 posted on 02/10/2004 2:46:12 PM PST by gedeon3
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To: Henrietta
You brought up your belief that my opinion of Bush is based on my being in the military. Those men and women could potentially lose far more than you, at any moment, on any day. My point is they by in large see things differently than you do. My comment may not have been up to your standards of eloquence, but it was more polite than my first thought.
220 posted on 02/10/2004 4:49:40 PM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk)
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