Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 Feb 2004 (Pres Bush on MTP)

Various big media television networks ^ | 8 Feb 2004 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[FRgal4u]

Cheney is hiding in his own spiderhole, like it or not, that's the truth. He gave speeches to GOP activists, and if tehse activists need Cheney's explaination on Iraq for 2004, we are in deep deep do do.

Cheney has all sorts of assertions that WMD will be found in Iraq, Rumsfeld say he knew where the stuff were - how do they know? I want to know what is going wrong here, not just the CIA, but also with administration officials who got us into this war.

I don't believe Pres. Bush misled the public on the war, but I have serious concerns that he was misled by other people in his administration.

Time for Cheney to come clean and answer questions or dump him in 04. Get him out before he did a Nixon '74 on all of us. The GOP can't afford to have two Nixons in its history.

[Carolinamom]

Keep watching. Bottom Line = Bush Good. Russert Bad.

[beebuster2000]

my fear exactly. plus it feels like the momentum is wrong. it felt that way right before Saddam capture and that turned it around, but the bump didn't last. the election could come down to the last piece of good or bad news. scary. kind of like who has the ball for the last possession

[RightWhale]

when standing next to Bush

If Bush's campaign manager is not asleep, Kerry will never stand next to Dubya. Nor loom like Algore.

[olliemb]

"I have never seen an interview of someone less sure of themselves than during that first 30 minutes."

Stu you are full of yourself. !!!

[beebuster2000]

already had one after listening to the pres talk about kicking Saddam's butt. no pill needed.

[arasina]

Very well stated post.

[Stu Cohen]

Ummm....Stu...heat to break it to you buddy...w\but calling them Rats...is mild and actually mocking their paranoia...have you seen what they describe us as on DU or on any "mainstream" media show? Remember Algore and the "extra chromosome" comment? And the laughter that crak drew from his audience? And THESE are the people who think they are divinely smarter than the rest of us???

Point taken, but that doesn't mean that we have to immitate that nonsense.

We should strive to be better than that, and we certainly should not use DU as a yardstick to measure our intellectual success. Heck, why not just use a rhesus monkey as comparison?

[jwalsh07]

Then why grant an interview to liberal NBC in the first place?

You have to slay the dragon where the dragon lives.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

This is not unusual for the Presidents numbers to dip during the DUmocrat primaries. It has happened to most all sitting Presidents, even Clinton.

We are over 200 days from the election which is nearly a lifetime as far as politics go.

The independent voters never make a commitment until the debates are over, which is in October. Until then, the numbers will rise and fall daily with the progress of the war as well as the economy.

Don't forget, that there are over 100 million investors in this country and they all agree that a Democrat is very bad for the Stock market as well as the economy.

[maica]

And let's not forget that it was F-16's of the 147th Fighter Squadron, TXARNG that escorted Air Force One from Florida, to Barksdale AFB to D.C. on Sept. 11th. They launched from Ellington Field in Houston and joined up with AF One over the Gulf of Mexico.
1,004 posted on 02/08/2004 12:49:46 PM EST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life)
*****

Good karma!!!

[oceanview]

It did. we saw the downturn coming on strong at work in late 3Q/4Q 2000, even before 2001. these GDP numbers are all over the place, trying to find out when they are accurate enough to identify the "two consecutive quarters" that define the recession is elusive.

I don't think most americans blame Bush for the recession. The only area where he is politically weak on the economy is showing very little connection/attention to job losses, especially offshoring. At many large companies across america, its all employees are talking about, and Bush is talking about steroid use during the SOTU. Bad move.

[citizen]

---Do women think John Kerry is "cute?" uh uh, no way, nada, when pigs fly, etc.---

Good to hear that. How about Edwards? Edwards as Veep?

[Stu Cohen]

Stu you are full of yourself. !!!

A fine and reasoned rebutal of this magnitude cannot be answered within the confines of a message group.

[jmstein7]

Here is what the doom-and-gloomers over at National Review Online (the corner) had to say:

GWB ON MTP [John Derbyshire]

Just got through watching the President on Meet the Press. I thought it was
a pretty dismal performance. I'll be voting for GWB in November, but let's
face it, the Great Communicator he ain't. The tongue-tied blather was
coming thick and fast. At times, he looked like Al Sharpton on the Federal
Reserve. . .

This stuff isn't going to convince anyone, and will probably turn off some
supporters. The best defense of the Iraq war I have yet seen was given by
Alan Keyes on FNC last week. Crisp, clear, and convincing. POTUS should
hire Keyes as a speechwriter, at any salary he asks for.

It got a bit better. National Guard? Stop denigrating it. (Darn right.)
GWB got honorable discharge--what's to argue with? But then we hit the
economy.

Russert: "Our current fiscal policy is unsustainable, according to the GAO.
Why, as a fiscal conservative, would you allow this deficit disaster?"
GWB: "The budget I have just proposed will cut the deficit... If Congress
is wise with the people's money..." If Congress is ****W*H*A*T****???? Ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha!

There were all sorts of presentational problems that GWB really should not
be suffering from at this stage in his career. He dropped the acronym
"PDB"; Russert had to interrupt to explain to us peons that it means
"President's Daily Briefing." Too reminiscent of Bob Dole in '96 mumbling
about "cloture" (which, as P.J. O'Rourke said at the time, most Americans
probably believe to be a surgical procedure). . .

To place national security up front like this, on its own, has all sorts of
perils. What if there's another big terrorist attack in October? I myself
believe that GWB **IS** the right man in a dangerous time, but he's not
going to convince the unconvinced with feeble performances like this.

RE: "MEET THE PRESS" [Rod Dreher]
I'm afraid I have to side with Michael on the Bush interview. I kept wincing as the president bobbled his answers. Even when he gave what on paper is a decent enough answer, he looked nervous, stumbly and intellectually unsure. He did himself no favors with this interview. I know Bush is not known for being eloquent, but it did strike me that we should be able to expect better than this from the President of the United States, at least after three years in office. I recalled Jay Nordlinger's terrific tribute to British foreign secretary Jack Straw's magisterial and ringing Davos defense of the war in his Jan. 22 Impromptus:

Straw was commanding, unflinching, persuasive, affable, willing, and factual. He was informed to the gills. He proved a superb explainer/defender of all that we are doing, and have done, and will do in Iraq. I dare say that no American official has performed as well — certainly not Straw's counterpart, Colin Powell. How much good it would do, around the world and at home, for Powell to make such efforts, with such conviction and knowledge! My suspicion is that most people would come around to the Coalition point of view — or at least not be hostile to it — if it were explained sufficiently well. This has been a failure of the post-9/11 period. But Jack Straw, trust me, is up to the job.

George W. Bush, I regret to say, is not. He had better get his act together. I found myself watching him slouch and skitter through the Russert interview, and thought how fortunate we are that the president will probably be running against a liberal Democrat from Massa-gay-marriage-chusetts this fall.

"DISASTER" [KJL]
Michael, I don't know that it was a disaster. I don't think it helped much, but it probably didn't do much damage either. He sounded defensive on intel and, oddly, he seemed almost removed from his service answer. I'm taking comfort in the fact its Sunday morning and most people were doing something other than watching meet the press. What I always do think is useful is people seeing how heartfelt is his love for this country, for its people, and for freedom. That came across, as it often does when he does sitdowns. But again, all in all, I don't think it was a disaster, by any stretch.

Etc.

[MEG33]

He was quoting candidate Edwards I believe,not making the bad war statememnt himself.It's election year and the rhetoric will only get worse.Stay safe and thank you for serving our country!

[Amelia]

Please don't use "TR" to designate Tim Russert. "TR" stands for Teddy Roosevelt. Please don't confuse me. A minor point to some, but not to me.

I'm sorry you were confused. Most of us knew that Teddy Roosevelt wasn't appearing on any of the talk shows this morning.

For some reason, Teddy just refuses to appear on TV.

[oceanview]

the decline of the Nasdaq had nothing to do with prosecution of Microsoft. It was a huge financial bubble engineered by Rubin and Greenspan.

[White Eagle]

You have to use those special filters.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

But Eleanor used to appear in the White House to Hillary. She could ask Teddy.