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Hereford [Arizona] family recounts harrowing carjacking [by border intruders]
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | 8 February 2004 | Bill Hess

Posted on 02/07/2004 9:21:50 PM PST by Spiff

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Just coming here to beat the 8th-graders Americans don't want to.
1 posted on 02/07/2004 9:21:51 PM PST by Spiff
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To: HiJinx; JackelopeBreeder; AZBear; AZHSer; SandRat; janetgreen; idratherbepainting
ping
2 posted on 02/07/2004 9:23:16 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
You're posting good news tonight!
3 posted on 02/07/2004 9:23:42 PM PST by cyborg
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If I was Sandy Graham I would be carrying a loaded pistol, and would use it. It's legal to carry in AZ isn't it? A few dead carjackers might send a message.

America has enough scumbag criminals already, why are we importing more? These guys will do some time, then might get deported, then will be right back over the border the next day. Existing immigration laws need to be ENFORCED!!

5 posted on 02/07/2004 9:34:03 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Protect Our Borders From Invasion)
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Yep, that's it.

Well, I think it has already begun. Immigration Reform, the next great grassroots issue.

I'd like some folks to start challenging the Democrats on this, because they've already said Bush's plan is too restrictive.

I think swing voters need to know where Kerry, et al. stand on this issue. Too bad Bush already positioned himself way in the mushy middle, but he'll only be around for 4 more years at most (we hope), this immigration thing has got to be dealt with.

If we can't protect our borders we are doomed.
6 posted on 02/07/2004 9:36:18 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: idratherbepainting
Gubbermint nevers likes to hear a citizen talk about their right to bear arms.
7 posted on 02/07/2004 9:37:33 PM PST by cyborg
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Sandy's neighbors have now formed armed patrols. And they're not the only ones. Things are heating up here and Bush's amnesty proposal last month just threw gasoline on it all.
8 posted on 02/07/2004 9:38:17 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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I think I'm gonna have to avoid reading articles like this. They just tick me off too much.
9 posted on 02/07/2004 9:42:15 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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Bush's amnesty proposal

Lots of outrage about this in southern California, even from Mexican-Americans.

10 posted on 02/07/2004 9:44:21 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Protect Our Borders From Invasion)
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I wonder if this locale has sanctuary laws that prevent law enforcement from inquiring as to status? I wonder how many other criminal actions these thugs have previously committed? I am curious if there might be any felony warrants against these honorable hombres, like in LA where something like 90% of outstanding murder warrants are for "these nice visitors" from over the border. But of course we will not meanly and crudely inquire as to "status" of these fine folk.

I hope someone directed this apparently needy and down on their luck little band to the nearest welfare office so they could benefit from the generosity of Americans, and oh by the way, if the social security system is really about to go bust, then lets pass the hat pronto.

Our medical system probably is not as good as what they are accustom to, and it sounds like they might have been roughed up some by that belligerent family who would not accomodate them kindly, so lets make sure the gubermint issues these wayward migrant car-jacking hard workers a decent medical policy.

I do not understand why I should have to be making these reminders known to Americans, surely we could learn to treat most of these victims with a tad of compassion.

Disgusted Pedro
11 posted on 02/07/2004 10:04:09 PM PST by petertare (truth, justice and the American way)
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Just coming here to drive our SUV's and beat women and children.

Bump for more immigration enforcement.

Hoppy
12 posted on 02/07/2004 10:05:49 PM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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The accused are Alfredo Meza Beltran, 24; Arthur Hernandez-Hernandez, 19; and Andres Enrique Valenzuela-Valenzuela, 22. They are each charged with armed robbery, aggravated robbery, motor vehicle theft, conspiracy, two counts of kidnapping and two counts of aggravated assault.

But..but, they're just hardworking family men just trying to feed their families..doing jobs Americans won't do. They harm no one and add billions to the economy.
13 posted on 02/07/2004 10:27:10 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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bttt
14 posted on 02/07/2004 10:30:37 PM PST by gipper81
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I drove to within four miles of Hereford this past summer. It seemed like every tenth vehicle on the highway belonged to the Border Control.
15 posted on 02/07/2004 10:32:06 PM PST by rustbucket
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You seem to have the scoop--and precisely what nationality would these repeat-name gents be? Where is it they call home? Surely this has been reported in full?
17 posted on 02/07/2004 10:41:21 PM PST by petertare (truth, justice and the American way)
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What the hell has happened to my (ex) sleey little town?
18 posted on 02/07/2004 10:45:59 PM PST by mylife
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I saw a report on hereford on cnn the other night on illegals. Its awful what has happened to the place in 7 years.
19 posted on 02/07/2004 10:48:35 PM PST by mylife
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To: Spiff; majhenrywest; JackelopeBreeder; Marine Inspector; onyx; Myrddin; SandRat; hollywood
The RINO Open Borders Elites don't give a damn about Americans being beaten and killed by illegal alien criminal invaders.

They think Hispandering with open borders will win more Hispanic votes than it will lose them from their Republican base.

They're dead wrong, and if W. doesn't figure this out, he's going to be a one-termer like his father.

20 posted on 02/07/2004 10:50:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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