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Sarasota judge says he did nothing wrong in handling Smith case
Miami Herald ^
| 2-6-04
| VICKIE CHACHERE
Posted on 02/06/2004 5:29:44 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: jocon307
"But I heard some glimpses of this guy having a prior for kidnapping, any straight dope on that?"
From what I know, he was either found not guilty or there was not sufficient evidence to go to trial. Something like that.
It is true he was charged/arrested for an attempted kidnapping/assault on a woman, but was never convicted of that crime.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:23:30 PM PST
by
Peace will be here soon
(The NFL is full of boobs and boytoys. Now Rugby, that is a real mans sport !!!)
To: abclily
"Judges and lawyers should be held accountable for the criminals they put back on the streets." I've long held that, with every conviction (or, perhaps, arrest), there should be a public notice printed in the paper of record. That public notice should include all of the defendant's previous arrents, the disposition of those cases, and the judges, parole officers, prosecutors and defense attornies involved.
If there is blame to be placed, we should know whose it is.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:24:23 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: abclily
"Judges and lawyers should be held accountable for the criminals they put back on the streets." I've long held that, with every conviction (or, perhaps, arrest), there should be a public notice printed in the paper of record. That public notice should include all of the defendant's previous arrents, the disposition of those cases, and the judges, parole officers, prosecutors and defense attornies involved.
If there is blame to be placed, we should know whose it is.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:24:58 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: Cubs Fan
I'm a big fan of hanging judges by their toes or whapping them upside the head when they screw up - see the German cannibal case -
Unless this guy was known to be violent or predatory, I don't think non-payment and other probation violations would be any kind of indication that he would do what he did.
I think it's a human inclination to assign blame - by demonstrating that "but for this bozo, the girl would still be alive", we can think that the solution is the elimination of bozo judges. It also makes us feel safer if we can figure out who/how things were fouled up.
Sad, sad deal and I hope this perp gets everything and more that the law can throw at him.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:27:17 PM PST
by
Wicket
(God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
To: jocon307
"I'm thinking of getting my daughter self-defense classes for HS Graduation."
Stop thinking about it and do it!!! You might just be saving her life or at least protecting her against rape or bad physical assault. I took a self-defense class last year...amazing! Even just a few suggestions that your daughter might pick up could save her. Like, caught in a parking garage with someone? Play ring-around the car until someone maybe comes along; or roll under the car. Whatever you do, don't ever, ever agree to go with the man...you're signing your death warrant. After I saw the camera images of the little girl leaving with the monster, I thought to myself...she should be fighting back, pulling from him, and screaming bloody murder!
I feel great sorrow for the family of this little girl; they must be feeling pain unlike anything I've ever known!
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:27:48 PM PST
by
Maria S
("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
To: raybbr
Our judicial system is in dire straits.Ain't that the truth! IMO, the time has come for the Legislative and Executive Branches to (a) ignore efforts by the Judiciary to make law, (b) to insist that it cleans up its act regarding its responsibility to faithfully carry out the law in its courts.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:28:07 PM PST
by
expatpat
To: Peace will be here soon
It is true he was charged/arrested for an attempted kidnapping/assault on a woman, but was never convicted of that crime.
Another post indicated he was convicted on the assault charge. I just don`t know for sure. I do believe he was not convicted on the kidnapping charge.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:28:15 PM PST
by
Peace will be here soon
(The NFL is full of boobs and boytoys. Now Rugby, that is a real mans sport !!!)
To: Indy Pendance
"I did my job"
Yeah so did Himmler
That Judge needs to stand trial for complicity before the fact.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:28:35 PM PST
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
To: Peace will be here soon; jocon307
Another post indicated he was convicted on the assault charge. I just don`t know for sure. I do believe he was not convicted on the kidnapping charge.
I didn`t want to give you bad info.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:31:47 PM PST
by
Peace will be here soon
(The NFL is full of boobs and boytoys. Now Rugby, that is a real mans sport !!!)
To: Indy Pendance
"Sarasota judge says he did nothing wrong in handling Smith case"Uh, right judge. Try explaining that one to Carlie's parents.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:37:26 PM PST
by
BigSkyFreeper
(All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
To: jocon307
Better yet get her shooting lessons, and pay for her to get a CCW permit.
Parole & Probation stats
Recidivisim Stats
I strongly suggest ALL read these reports. They are the latest stats from the BJS. Over 12,000 men, women and children were slaughtered by felons on probation and parole in 1991, which is the last report done.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:48:09 PM PST
by
GailA
(Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
To: abclily
No No, you don't understand. Judges and lawyers are more equal than the rest of us.
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posted on
02/06/2004 6:55:31 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: Cubs Fan
"Neither violation resulted in Smith being jailed. Rapkin, who assumed Smith's case when he took over a division from another judge, never actually saw Smith in his courtroom."
"Smith tested positive for drug use in August, but the probation officer noted that the test could have been affected by Smith's use of prescription painkillers and antidepressants. The second violation came when Smith fell behind in his court payments, a $411 bill that was to be paid by the fall."
Nonsense? This type of person wanders our streets every day. If we lock them all up we would need another planet to hold them.
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posted on
02/06/2004 7:13:23 PM PST
by
rocksblues
(Keep em Flying and come home safe!)
To: Indy Pendance
"If I thought that not signing a warrant caused this girl's death, I'd quit," Rapkin said.Not to worry--Judge Rapkin is up for re-election this year. The voters will give him a pink slip.
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posted on
02/06/2004 7:19:50 PM PST
by
NautiNurse
(Missing Iraqi botulinum toxin? Look at John Kerry's face)
To: Indy Pendance
If I might go on just a slight tangent? The Legal experience of Joseph Smith should give us a pretty good idea of just how things would turn out if Kerry and crew take the Presidency and start processing the terrorists as criminals.
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posted on
02/06/2004 7:26:57 PM PST
by
JimSEA
To: sandbar
Judges don't make the law. If the spineless legislatures would do their jobs this judiciary revolution could be halted.
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posted on
02/06/2004 7:35:54 PM PST
by
Righty1
(N)
To: Indy Pendance; All
test could have been affected by Smith's use of prescription painkillers and antidepressants. . .Why do I see a Prozac Defense coming up in the future for this guy?
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posted on
02/06/2004 7:55:29 PM PST
by
Dasaji
(Just keep swimming....just keep swimming...just keep swimming, swimming, swimming...))
To: Maria S
If judges were to be sued,life would quickly improve. There might be a good judge occasionally, but most of them are very peculiar people.
To: Maria S
We don't need to add to the already overloaded lawsuit forum where the only ones who win are the lawyers. All we need to do is give JUSTICE to those who have been wronged for life by these scumbags who think a day in court and a few years in jail is a walk in the park! What has happened to our justice system? Victims no longer have any rights. The accused have all the rights we can muster up! It's a sad sad state of affairs here. The answer is really not that complicated. If you commit a crime, there's gonna be hell to pay! If we stop making prison less like a day at the beach and more like a place you really don't want to be, then MAYBE criminals will take notice. If a death sentence doesn't mean you get another 10 or 15 years, but means you DIE in less than a year, wouldn't that mean something to perpetrators? (not to mention saving a ton of taxpayer dollars)
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posted on
02/06/2004 9:12:05 PM PST
by
Just Lori
(The ACLU can get a grip or just go away!)
To: JOE6PAK
" prescription drug fraud, "
yes, I just hope against hope that this guy wasn't also "DOCTOR SHOPPING" because if he was, his goose is really cooked....
Let's hear it for lynching all those doctor-shopping criminals!!!!!
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posted on
02/06/2004 10:39:14 PM PST
by
cherry
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