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Sarasota judge says he did nothing wrong in handling Smith case
Miami Herald ^ | 2-6-04 | VICKIE CHACHERE

Posted on 02/06/2004 5:29:44 PM PST by Indy Pendance

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1 posted on 02/06/2004 5:29:46 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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2 posted on 02/06/2004 5:29:56 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
I heard M. Savage suggest something interesting while ago about this case...if doctors can be sued (and they ARE) for anything and everything that goes wrong, why not judges and defense lawyers? IMO, especially some of the liberal judges these days!?!
4 posted on 02/06/2004 5:32:57 PM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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I've always thought that officers of the court who let these freaks out early and repeatedly should have their names in the paper.
5 posted on 02/06/2004 5:36:01 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Maria S
I totally agree! Thats what I said to my husband after work this evening. They should be able to sue the judge!
6 posted on 02/06/2004 5:38:11 PM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: Maria S
Exactly. Judges and lawyers should be held accountable for the criminals they put back on the streets. These criminals terrorize all law abiding citizens. Citizens should be able to bring class action suits against judges and lawyers for malpractice.
7 posted on 02/06/2004 5:38:50 PM PST by abclily
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...if doctors can be sued (and they ARE) for anything and everything that goes wrong, why not judges and defense lawyers? IMO, especially some of the liberal judges these days!?!

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8 posted on 02/06/2004 5:41:28 PM PST by alrea (let's go back to when liberalism meant freedom from central authority)
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To: Indy Pendance
Thanks for posting this, I kept hearing glimpses (well, that's what it was like) of it all day.

But I have to say, this is less than what I imagined. It seems to me that, as reported in this article, the Judge and probabtion officer had no reason to think this man would commit a crime of such magnitude, if this is the entirety of if. I, myself, wouldn't think that falling behind by $180 in money due to the court would indicate that a person was likely to commit murder.

But I heard some glimpses of this guy having a prior for kidnapping, any straight dope on that?

Crimes like this are the worst. This one is particularly bad, almost no time went by before the girl was missed and the situation reported, and she still was not saved. Scares the sh*t out of me.

I'm thinking of getting my daughter self-defense classes for HS Graduation. How she used to moan, when she was little and wanted to go where ever, that I "didn't trust her", and I told her so many times that I trusted her, just not all the bad people in the world. And the main problem is that you don't know who they are, or where they are, and, in fact, they can be anywhere.

She drives now, and I don't have the anxiety about that that most people do. She is a good driver, but cars are always worrisome, but I've realized that my greatest fear for my daughter is that she might be a crime victim.

I feel so awful for this family. At least I think the great state of Florida can be relied upon to execute the bastard, for that I give them credit.
9 posted on 02/06/2004 5:43:56 PM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: Maria S
Do you honestly think judges would rule for themselves to be sued for not making good decisions??

That is absurd as a group of people being able to vote themselves a raise!! And we all know that doesn't happen!

Oh wait...
10 posted on 02/06/2004 5:44:12 PM PST by sandbar
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I think that as this guy has no history of child molesting and the fact that he was only behind on court payments the Judge is not at fault!
11 posted on 02/06/2004 5:47:17 PM PST by rocksblues (Keep em Flying and come home safe!)
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I've have spoken profusely on this subject in the long Carlie thread. But this judge is a liar. He let a convicted arsonist loose three years ago who shot one and almost killed another person. He has refused to sign warrants as requested by the Department of Corrections in hundreds of cases. If Jeb does not lift a finger to initiate an investigation against this judge, it just proves he is all talk and no action.
12 posted on 02/06/2004 5:47:39 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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Smith has a lengthy criminal past that includes at least 13 arrests and a string of probation assignments. Court records show him as a chronic drug abuser who has been arrested repeatedly for prescription drug fraud, cocaine use and heroin possession.

Lets hope the Fla. "PROSECUTOR" doesn't start getting e-mail!

Right Rush?

13 posted on 02/06/2004 5:48:32 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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I see a day coming in this country where public officials are forced to account for their irresponsible actions. As I understand the present system they are protected, statutorily , from prosecution for their actions. I don't see how this can be allowed to continue.

The people must be protected from irresponsible public officials such as Harry Rapkin and the bureaucrats who run the Florida Department of Corrections. Harry Rapkin and those who enabled and allowed this outrage should be summarily removed from office.

14 posted on 02/06/2004 5:49:11 PM PST by davisfh
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After hearing the whole story about the judge I came to the conclusion that he was not in the wrong, but the judge in the first assault case and the entire freaking jury in the second are to blame. Two years probation for assaulting a woman and he ended in custody only because the police wandered by.

But in any case, lawyers will not take cases against each other. Seems sharks on land are not cannibals.

15 posted on 02/06/2004 5:51:46 PM PST by doodad
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In August, when Smith tested positive for drug use, the judge marked on a form that no further action was required, Crosby said. In December, the matter was only addressed with the note on the file. "What the judge typically should do according to the rules is issue a warrant and have a hearing," Crosby said. "If he had a question on whether we had evidence, we would produce the evidence.

If this judge had a conscience he would commit suicide. I hope he continues to receive threats, normally such things are wildly inappropriate, but not in this case. Not at all.

16 posted on 02/06/2004 5:55:22 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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phooey!
17 posted on 02/06/2004 5:56:06 PM PST by pointsal
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To: beckysueb
I totally agree! Thats what I said to my husband after work this evening. They should be able to sue the judge!

Yep if a doctor makes a mistake far less blatant than this and it results in a death or other injury they can lose their license and be sued for millions. So why should a judge be able to make a decision that takes a little girls life and have no accountility whatsoever?

18 posted on 02/06/2004 5:58:38 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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I think that as this guy has no history of child molesting and the fact that he was only behind on court payments the Judge is not at fault!

Nonsense he violated probation twice in failing a drug test and failing to pay his fines. He's obviously a habitual offender who shouldn't even be out, much less out when he violates his probation. This jusdge should do the right thing and stick a shotgun in his mouth. A little 11 year old girl is dead because of his gross incompetence.

19 posted on 02/06/2004 6:03:25 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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"What the judge typically should do according to the rules is issue a warrant and have a hearing," Crosby said. "If he had a question on whether we had evidence, we would produce the evidence.

"...The judge has all the power. All we can do is report when the person has not performed as ordered by the judge."

And this:

Months before a sexual predator allegedly raped and murdered a mother and killed her young daughter, a Woburn judge offered to detain Michael Bizanowicz on a drug forgery charge but his probation supervisors told the court to ``send him on.''
``What more could we do?'' said Woburn District Court Presiding Judge Marie Jackson Thompson, who said yesterday that the judge went above his call of duty when he reached out to Bizanowicz' probation office in Lowell.
From here.

Judges are telling lies all over the country. When it comes to social engineering they are quick to claim power. When it comes to keeping criminals off the street and the public safe they claim to have no power. Our judicial system is in dire straits.

20 posted on 02/06/2004 6:14:10 PM PST by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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