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GOP slams Bush policies at retreat
The Washington Times ^
| 2/6/04
| By Ralph Z. Hallow and James G. Lakely
Posted on 02/06/2004 1:27:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: .30Carbine
Case in point.
Your messiah Tancredo, perhaps?
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:15:57 AM PST
by
gatorbait
(Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
To: Miss Marple
I don't think Tancredo will be taken into the leadership's confidence any time soon.That strategery will sit well with his politically active constituents.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:17:01 AM PST
by
.30Carbine
(This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
To: gatorbait
I believe in criticizing the president when I think he's wrong. I wish more Democrats had criticized Clinton back then. President Bush is standing by his immigration proposal, so those who disagree with it should work to either change his mind or block it. If Tancredo's policy is no better then block that, too.
To: Neets
Well, I am glad to hear we can count on your support for President Bush in November. "Count on" is a little strong. I'd like to be able to say you can count on me, but the fact is I have never voted for a republican or democrat in a presidential race, so I have no track record to hang my hat on. And while I certainly prefer President Bush over the democrat candidate--whoever it will be--I am not 100% confident that I won't toss my vote in the trash again. I did it last time.
But I can say with certainty that I am not in favor of "anyone but Bush." I am striving to make the best, wisest choice with my one vote out of 300 million votes come November. I strongly believe that that means voting for GWB. But sometimes he has a way of really setting me off. We shall see.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:18:20 AM PST
by
Huck
(I was gonna write an opus, but we'll just have to wait and see...)
To: kristinn
BTW, Kristinn what is your solution to the immigration problem.
And if it is mass deportation please spell out the logistics and costs of such an operation to round up 8,000,000 people.
145
posted on
02/06/2004 4:19:48 AM PST
by
Dane
To: gatorbait
Your messiah Tancredo, perhaps?I live in Vermont; Tancredo is a representative to Congress from the state of Colorado.
My Messiah is Jesus Christ the Son of God. Just wanted to get that straight.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:20:41 AM PST
by
.30Carbine
(This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
To: kristinn
I believe in criticizing the president when I think he's wrong
No problem there.I do have a problem when it morphs into third party ranting. I have a problem when it is spoon fed to those who take a policy disagreement and turn it into a hostile weapon that destroys our interests. I do have a problem when principle is the excuse for suicide.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:21:08 AM PST
by
gatorbait
(Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
To: .30Carbine
I live in Vermont
Say hi to Howie when he gets home.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:22:40 AM PST
by
gatorbait
(Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
To: conspiratoristo
Non-Support of Fed Judiciary Nominees, (Pickering excepted) What the hell are you talking about. Bush appointed them. It is interesting that you do not have a peep of criticism of the demos who threw out 200 years of Senate precendent on the voting of Judicial nominees.
Oh that's right the demos are your friends, nevermind.
Also the demos hate the education bill since it has standards that the public schools and the teachers unions can't meet.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:23:04 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Huck
So you have voted independent then?
He really has a way of setting me off too.
And I let him and my representatives know that.
And when he is re-elected I'll continue to let them know that.
But I am a realist and I know that no elected official can effect 100% positive results for 100% of those who support him.
And I am also a realist in knowing that he, nor any other Republican can undo 40+ years of Democrat control/damage in 4, 8 or even 12 years.
But if we don't start know, we'll never get there.
I should prolly note that I am more upset with him over Medicare than I am over the illegal immigration effort.
But we have to start somewhere...he started in 00 and will continue in 04 and I stand firmly behind him even if I don't agree with him 100%
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:24:40 AM PST
by
Neets
(Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
To: ovrtaxt
"He said he didn't do it for politics [but] because that's what he believes is good for the country," Mr. Duffy said, adding that Mr. Bush drove his point home by saying, "I'm from Texas and I know this issue." Well that's good enough for me! So long as Bush Jr. can mumble his usual monosyllabic stammering utterances about this or that, I'm convinced. Especially since I'm from Southern California and know, as this brilliant man does, that the faster you import massive numbers of third world migrants, the happier everyone will be.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:25:14 AM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Settle illegals on the Crawford TX ranch.)
To: dagnabbit
Well that's good enough for me! So long as Bush Jr. can mumble his usual monosyllabic stammering utterances about this or that, I'm convinced. Especially since I'm from Southern California and know, as this brilliant man does, that the faster you import massive numbers of third world migrants, the happier everyone will be It takes one to know one, with your stammering repeat mantra of hyperpole.
BTW, what is your solution to the immigration problem, please spell out the logistics and costs of rounding up 8,000,000 people.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:27:48 AM PST
by
Dane
To: .30Carbine
That strategery will sit well with his politically active constituents.Then perhaps his constituents should encourage him not to grandstand by revealing what transpired at a confidential meeting.
To: ovrtaxt
Don't get too excited, this is all for show, we get to tell ourselves Rove and Bush have been taken behind the woodshed. It's a day late and a dollar short for this ploy isn't it?
Where were their Republican principles when they passed everything Bush proposed? Of course Bush has been a complete bully from what I have read, calling and threatening lawmakers to pass his foolishness. Telling Tancredo not to darken his door.
Bush is from Texas and he knows this issue? We'll see.
To: Dane
Enforce the laws on the books.
Beef up the Border Patrol to levels commensurate with the problem.
Deny illegals benefits like drivers licenses, college tuition, social security, etc.
Beef up whatever the INS is called these days to handle legal immigration and to deal with the illegals.
Change the law or the Constitution from making anyone born here an automatic citizen.
When we've done all that, then we can start mass deportations of illegals.
To: ovrtaxt
Great post. Great news that Karl Rove is listening to "the base"......
May this shamnesty get flushed down the toilet for good and not come back in 2005 after GWBush gets re-elected
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:32:32 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: kristinn; Dane
When we've done all that, then we can start mass deportations of illegals. And then we can endure weeks, months, and maybe even YEARS of how much this is going to cost and what it is doing to our budget.
Have you figured out the cost of MASS DEPORTATION of hundreds of thousands of illegals?
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:35:51 AM PST
by
Neets
(Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
To: Dane
BTW, what is your solution to the immigration problem, please spell out the logistics and costs of rounding up 8,000,000 people.
Do you even read other posts??? Other solutions besides this GWBush scamnesty???
Of course our INS is physically incapable of such mass deportation of millions.
So many times the formula for self-deportation has been posted. The key is enforcing employer sanctions. The employer sanctions have to beefed up with an online database of SS numbers. No jobs, and 50% of illegal aliens will be gone in 6 months. The rest we get to later
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:39:51 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: Dane
BTW, what is your solution to the immigration problem, please spell out the logistics and costs of rounding up 8,000,000 people.
Do you even read other posts??? Other solutions besides this GWBush scamnesty???
Of course our INS is physically incapable of such mass deportation of millions.
So many times the formula for self-deportation has been posted. The key is enforcing employer sanctions. The employer sanctions have to beefed up with an online database of SS numbers. No jobs, and 50% of illegal aliens will be gone in 6 months. The rest we get to later
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:40:18 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: kristinn
Enforce the laws on the books Then how come you are so quiet and don't focus any animus about the demo big city mayors who ignore the law.
Deny illegals benefits like drivers licenses, college tuition, social security, etc.
I agree, but temporary workers should be able to get drivers licenses and make sure they are insured. BTW, are you going to force native born Americans by gunpoint to take menial jobs or force business owners to raise their wages to $20 an hour for a dishwasher?
Change the law or the Constitution from making anyone born here an automatic citizen
Then write Congress asking for a Constitutional amendment.
When we've done all that, then we can start mass deportations of illegals
And how many people will that take. You are silent. The US has 150,000 troops in Iraq with a population of 22 million. But there job is not the forced relocation of people. My appx. is that it will take at least a million troops and for what to get people who for the most part are doing the crime of washing dishes and cleaning toilets.
JMO, Kristinn this problem is much more complicated and will not be solved with simplistic hyperbole.
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posted on
02/06/2004 4:41:06 AM PST
by
Dane
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