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Man Survived 22,000-Foot Fall Out of Bomber
Albuquerque Journal
| 2/3/04
| Paul Logan
Posted on 02/03/2004 8:54:26 PM PST by woofie
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To: spodefly
Well if 120mph is as fast as the human body can go when falling, then perhaps you would get a survivor under the right conditions every now and then. I wouldn't want to make that trip either!
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:46:27 PM PST
by
SamAdams76
(I got my 401(k) statement - Up 28.02% in 2003 - Thanks to tax cuts and the Bush recovery)
To: SamAdams76
I vaguely remember reading about this before but I still find it hard to believe a man could fall 22,000 feet without a parachute and survive. A glass skylight "breaking" his fall? C'mon. It's happened on more than one occasion. On January 26, 1972, a bomb detonated on board a JAT Yugoslav Airlines DC-9-32. The aircraft was at 33,000 feet at the time and disintegrated in flight. There was one survivor, a flight attendant who had been seated in the rear of the aircraft. Despite her severe injuries, she lived although she was paralyzed from the waist down.
To: Squantos
Yuck!
Hey, instead of reserve parachutes, maybe they will invent airbags, like the Mars Rover's?
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:48:50 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: woofie
About 130mph or 200fps.
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:49:09 PM PST
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: spodefly
The 300 feet should be 300 meters ... which is approximately the shortest distance you could acheive terminal velocity.
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:50:32 PM PST
by
spodefly
(This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
To: woofie
What is the Highest Jump WITHOUT a Parachute?
1. "Lieutenant I. M. Chisov of the former Soviet Union was flying his Ilyushin 4 on a bitter cold day in January 1942, when it was attacked by 12 German Messerschmitts. Convinced that he had no chance of surviving if he staged with his badly battered plane, Chisov bailed out at 21,980 feet. With the fighters still buzzing around, Chisov cleverly decided to fall freely out of the arena. It was his plan not to open his chute until he was down to only 1000 ft above the ground. Unfortunately, he lost consciousness en route. As luck would have it, he crashed at the edge of a steep ravine covered with 3 ft of snow. Hitting at about 120 mi/h, he plowed along its slope until he came to rest at the bottom. Chisov awoke 20 min later, bruised and sore, but miraclously he had suffered only a concussion of the spine and a fractured pelvis. Three and one-half months later he was back at work as a flight instructor." Hecht, Eugene. Physics: Calculus. 2nd ed. United States: Brooks/Cole, 2000. p 85
2. Flight Sergeant Nicholas Steven Alkemade was on a bombing mission over Germany on 23 March 1944 when his Lancaster bomber flying at 18,000 feet was blazed apart and in flames when he was forced to jump, without a parachute or be burn to death. He dove out of his destroyed aircraft hoping on a quick death. His speed accelerated to over 120 miles per hour and he impacted on a snow covered sloping forest. He was completely uninjured and later captured by the Germans who refused to believe his story.
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:50:46 PM PST
by
jordan8
To: woofie
Does anyone want to estimate his air speed?Probably well in excess of an unladen swallow, English or African.
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:51:49 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: Travis McGee
Hey, instead of reserve parachutes, maybe they will invent airbags, like the Mars Rover's?Naw, they'll do genetic engineering.
The next generation Airborne trooper: his top is made of rubber, his bottom is made of springs...
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:52:57 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: Poohbah; archy
Just get in your pod, starship trooper, and prepare to drop.
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:54:32 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: woofie
"Flack City" ???
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posted on
02/03/2004 9:54:41 PM PST
by
wolficatZ
(___><))))*>____\0/____/|____)
To: Boiling point
I read the exact same story in one of those "Weakly Reader" type publications in sixth grade (I'm 49)
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:09:21 PM PST
by
CrazyIvan
(Death before dishonor, open bar after 6:00)
To: woofie
Does anyone want to estimate his air speed?
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Probably maxed out at about 100 mph due to air resistancw.
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:17:06 PM PST
by
RLK
To: SamAdams76
I vaguely remember reading about this before but I still find it hard to believe a man could fall 22,000 feet without a parachute and survive. A glass skylight "breaking" his fall? C'mon. There's another, a WWII Russian bomber pilot who similarly had little choice in the matter, but landed in snow after a bailout from 21,000 feet and survived; another Russian pilot went into fir trees and lived to tell about it. Details *here* and following:
Notable Free Fallers
I.M. Chisov:
Lt. I.M. Chisov was a Russian airman whose Ilyushin IL-4 bomber was attacked by German fighters in January of 1942. Falling nearly 22,000 feet, he hit the edge of a snow-covered ravine and rolled to the bottom. He was badly hurt but survived.
Alan Magee:
Alan Magee, a gunner on a B-17 with the 303rd Bomb Group of the U.S. 8th Air Force, was on a mission to St. Nazaire, France in January of 1943, when his bomber was set aflame by enemy fire. He was thrown from the plane before he had a chance to put on his parachute. He fell 20,000 feet and crashed through the skylight of the St. Nazaire train station. His arm was badly injured, but he recovered from that and other injuries.
Nicholas Alkemade
In March of 1944, Nicholas Alkemade was the tail gunner in a British Lancaster bomber on a night mission to Berlin when his plane was attacked by German fighters. When the captain ordered the crew to bail out, Alkemade looked back into the plane and discovered that his parachute was in flames. He chose to jump without a parachute rather than to stay in the burning plane. He fell 18,000 feet, landing in trees, underbrush, and drifted snow. He twisted his knee and had some cuts, but was otherwise alright.
Kids, don't try this at home...
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:19:49 PM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: SamAdams76
There was another WWII story about a crewman who fell out the bomb bay of a B-24 returning from a nighttime bombing raid on Attu in the Aleutians.
He had gone back to the bay in an attempt to remove a bomb that had hung up. But, in trying to disengage it, he fell out of the open bay. They were flying at about 8,000 feet, as I recall.
He dropped about fifty feet -- into a snow bank on a mountainside.
Got up. Dusted himself off. And, once the sun came up, walked down the mountain.
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:19:51 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: woofie; Lady Composer
I'm not sure I have all the details exactly, but the father of one of my high school classmates survived but barely when he was shot down over Italy. Apparently during the hit on his plane, the lower part of his right arm was severed and, the way the parachute pull was designed, he needed that arm to do the pulling. Somehow, miraculously, part of the chute had started working its way loose out of the pack, and finally opened up of its own accord in time for him to fall safely to the ground. He is also now passed along, and his name was Darrell Reno. He served as a Circuit Court Judge in my hometown county seat for many years.
My dad who also served in WW II told me this story some time back, and I'll check back with him tomorrow to just to make sure I have the story totally straight.
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:27:35 PM PST
by
NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
(Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
To: woofie
Amazing!
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posted on
02/03/2004 10:57:15 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Boiling point
It's not the fall that kills, it's the sudden stop at the end! :-)
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posted on
02/03/2004 11:39:41 PM PST
by
glorgau
To: Travis McGee
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posted on
02/04/2004 12:37:59 AM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: SAMWolf
His incredible story was featured in a 1981 Smithsonian Magazine on the 10 most amazing survivals during World War II.I'd like to see this issue. Amazing story, thanks partner for the ping!
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posted on
02/04/2004 4:44:13 AM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Boiling point
Documented in Martins Cadin book "Black Thursday" the daylight attack on Germany's Ball Bearing plant at Swinefurt(sp?)
He was a tail gunner, the tail was blown off the airplane, he didn't realize it had became unattached until he unstrapped to go get his parachute. He then fell out, fell 20,000+ into a snow bank
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:41:54 AM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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