Female U.S. Soldiers Under Fire

Associated Press ^ | 1-28-04

[archy]

But when it comes time to break track they won't be anywhere around! You know doctors appointment.

I've had female 63Yankees put me to shame horsing changeout roadwheels around and driving out broken M60A1 torsion bars with a sledgehammer. Don't be so sure that a female tanker couldn't handle basic tank maintenance as well as some guys.

Indeed, they'd likely actually be better off breaking track on a tank rather than horsing around wheels and tires for a 5-ton truck or Stryker wheelies.

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[American_Centurion]

The problem isn't the some that can, it's the majority that won't because they don't have to.

You see the it's the army itself that is the leading problem with weak and malingering soldiers both male and female, but I can put my boot in the ass of a male private who fails to show up for maintenance, with the females it's a career ender.

[Landru]

Right up your ally, kid.

Just one thing.
Be sure to consider the source, The Associated Press.

...for what it is worth.

[Khurkris]

Female intel operators....most certainly. They are as old as the tradecraft...maybe older. My comments were directed to the battlefield use of females. Armor is a good possible. Commo another. Heavy equiptment drivers is another. As far as Aviation units go, I think its a given that they can do the job. I am not anti-female in the military. I just think its a no go to position them in front line combat jobs.

Although the Soviets and NVA made use of female snipers. And I always found it easier to teach a woman to shoot than a man...lol.

[archy]

Although the Soviets and NVA made use of female snipers. And I always found it easier to teach a woman to shoot than a man...lol.

The reverse is true as well, it seems; the Israeli sniper school instructors are mostly female. And guess what: the bored Israeli grunts who've been sent to sniper school [for some reason, the Israelis don't view the sniper's job as a particularly elite one, and their aggressiveness works against the deliberative patience required of a expoert marksman and sniper] pay a LOT more attention to a cute female instructor than to another miserably drowning sergeant. The Israelis use a LOT of female instructors; necessary in a service where some 85% of the force is reservists who have to be brought back up to current status on modifications or doctrinal changes in the use of equipment with which they became familiar during their original 3-year hitch, but which change over a period of time.

[archy]

The problem isn't the some that can, it's the majority that won't because they don't have to.

You see the it's the army itself that is the leading problem with weak and malingering soldiers both male and female, but I can put my boot in the ass of a male private who fails to show up for maintenance, with the females it's a career ender.

Agreed. But some good female NCOs and junior officers can both do much of the assbooting necessary, and better, set better examples to be followed so that in many instances, such excessive wear to the footgear will be less necessary. It can't be done overnight or by virtue of *issue a written policy change today and it'll be complied with by tomorrow. Indeed, much of the problem has come from those trying to comply with such directives from on high, with the snuffies at the lowest level finding opportunities to coast, hidden by paperwork.

[Terriergal]

lol! Now *that* is the right kind of makeup!

[archy]

lol! Now *that* is the right kind of makeup!

So, how's the whitetail hunting in Minnesota? And is a rifle legal for deer hunting there?

[Aaron0617]

Bumping...great post.

"We were deeply moved when we lost Analaura Esparza," Lt. Col. Steve Russell, commander of the 1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment of the 4th Infantry Division, said. "This is not to say we are not moved when we lose a male soldier, but her loss deeply affected us in additional ways."

I still wonder..."additional ways" how? By what she did for her battalion. (Her enthusiasm etc) Or because she was a woman.

[HitmanLV]

I surrender! Which gal gets to search me?