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Savage Exposes 'The Enemy Within'
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2004 | James Hirsen

Posted on 01/28/2004 6:28:06 AM PST by VU4G10

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To: Houmatt
Otherwise shut your piehole

You really do like Savage don't you, you are parrotting his personality.

Oh well, you are going to have do better than that to intimidate me than using insecure and weak ad hominems like Savage uses.

BTW, how come Savage doesn't use his real name. Is he ashamed of his family's surname?

41 posted on 01/28/2004 7:35:50 AM PST by Dane
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To: NYC Republican
And heaven knows Sean Hannity never did that, did he?

Sheesh!

42 posted on 01/28/2004 7:37:06 AM PST by Houmatt (Where is Lurker No More?)
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To: swampfox98
He is not a suck up to the illegals

JMO, Savage is a suck up to his own ego.

43 posted on 01/28/2004 7:37:58 AM PST by Dane
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To: NYC Republican
Yes, send some back, close down the borders and withdraw welfare. I'm not against a work program that is fair. Illegals have sent 4 billion back to Mexico to their families this past year, so things can't be too bad for the workers.

Tell me, what is wrong with those solutions? Don't you have any idea of what is going to become of this country in five years or less if this massive influx of immigrants continues? Don't you worry about your children or your grand children's future with a majority of people who are overrunning the country and are unfriendly to America?

44 posted on 01/28/2004 7:39:13 AM PST by swampfox98
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To: NYC Republican
He tells it like it is. Plain and simple.

Common sense.
45 posted on 01/28/2004 7:40:17 AM PST by petercooper (We did not have to prove Saddam had WMD, he had to prove he didn't.)
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To: VU4G10
To a great extent, Michael Savage is a conservative version of Howard Stern. A major difference is the subject matter. Stern's milieu includes the entertainment business and sex. He creates a world around his life in Manhattan and (previously) Long Island and his cast of characters like Stuttering John. Savage's milieu includes the overall culture and politics. He creates a world around his life in San Francisco and Marin County and his past experiences as an academic and a researcher.

Like Stern, Savage's abrasiveness and "shock jock" rudeness are cultural affectations meant to draw audiences. Savage's roots are in the lower and middle classes of pre-1970 New York City, particularly its Jewish neighborhoods. This is not too far from those of Stern, although Stern grew up in the New York suburbs about a decade after Savage did.

Savage is the product of an urban, New York, Jewish culture. Most conservative writers and broadcasters are people who are products of suburban or rural areas. By and large, they are of British or German Protestant or Irish Catholic ancestry and thus come from cultural backgrounds that are far "stodgier" than Savage's. Additionally, Savage was not primarily a media person for most of his life, and has a broad range of scientific and scholarly experience few in the mainstream or alternative media can match.

It is the cultural, rather than the philosophical, flavor of Michael Savage that distinguishes him from the rest of the conservative pack.

46 posted on 01/28/2004 7:41:30 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: swampfox98
Illegals have sent 4 billion back to Mexico to their families this past year, so things can't be too bad for the workers

Well let's do the math. 4 billion divided by 8 million is $500 per person. That isn't a lot.

BTW, if you lived a 100 years ago would you be going nuts if a person sent some dollars to Dublin or Warsaw.

47 posted on 01/28/2004 7:42:28 AM PST by Dane
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To: NYC Republican
What's YOUR answer?

Sorry, Charlie, but once 9-11 came down, most people wanted the borders secured. As in right then.

Not only has the Bush Administration failed to listen to the people in this matter, they have proposed to make the situation worse.

THAT is what pissed Michael Savage off. And only the unreasonable (read: RATS and Bushbots) does not see where he is coming from.

48 posted on 01/28/2004 7:43:20 AM PST by Houmatt (Where is Lurker No More?)
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To: boomop1
Send them back, deny free medical and enforce the current laws. Send in the Feds to arrest city officials who ignore immigration law.

This sounds harsh but it is the only way to save our nation from copying Europe. The sooner we start the faster we begin patching our saftey net system. I'm sure a large amount could find sponsers and stay in the country. It is easy to say after the fact that there is nothing we can do now. But there is somthing we can do and it will be hard.

49 posted on 01/28/2004 7:44:22 AM PST by jetson
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To: MissAmericanPie
Don't lump Savage in there. He does not like it anymore than you do.
50 posted on 01/28/2004 7:44:27 AM PST by Houmatt (Where is Lurker No More?)
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To: Houmatt
And only the unreasonable (read: RATS and Bushbots) does not see where he is coming from.

And what is your "reasonable" solution?

51 posted on 01/28/2004 7:45:40 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
And what is your "reasonable" solution?

Why should I waste bandwidth on a "solution" when you are not doing the same.

You go first, since you think others presented are not the way to go.

52 posted on 01/28/2004 7:49:36 AM PST by Houmatt (Where is Lurker No More?)
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To: VU4G10; Badray; RightWhale; Dane; unix; martin_fierro; PA Engineer; freedomcrusader; cjshapi; ...
Savage Rocks!

Jim Quinn Rocks, too.

53 posted on 01/28/2004 7:51:55 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Dane
What kind of America are we building here, where the borders are wide open and anyone can come in and immediately go on welfare, health care and free schooling? I will never give up my fight to get these things done: Stop welfare and health care for illegals, deport those who aren't working and have criminal backgrounds, and most importantly, close the borders.

Enough is enough. It is obvious that this has to be done state by state by people who believe as I do. It is also obvious our President will never agree to encouraging any State to do this.

54 posted on 01/28/2004 7:54:51 AM PST by swampfox98
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To: VU4G10
Immigrants and epidemics?

Too politically incorrect to talk about, but watch out for bedbugs when you sleep in even a fancy hotel.

And watch those TB "titers"--the rate of infection is going steadily up.

55 posted on 01/28/2004 7:56:08 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: All
I listen to Savage once in a while but find him too rabid at times and like others have said, he sure thinks a lot of himself. He makes Rush seem humble.

Have you heard him tell some lame story and then go on and on about how brilliant it was and that everyone else is just too stupid to understand how ultra-intelligent it was?

When he calms down and just talks about the issues, he does make some sense but I can't get past his enormous ego.
56 posted on 01/28/2004 7:56:28 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (...and pecked by the dove...)
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To: Houmatt
My answer? I'd LOVE to have the borders sealed. If you put 20,000 people on the southern border - about 8,000 miles or so (my math could be wrong, I know it's just over 3,000 miles if it's a straight-shot, but it's not), you'd have one person every 2 1.2 miles - 3 shifts per slot- 60,000 people, cost of 100,000 total (including benefits), it would cost $6 billion a year, plus monitoring equipment, stations, etc, bringing the cost to $10 billion. Not an outrageous amount, but the fact is, there's no appetite in congress for this. Tancredo is great, but very few others are willing to touch this. Pandering occurs on both sides of the congressional aisle.

Having said that, back to my original point... I wasn't disagreeing with the content or arguments Savage pushes forward... rather, I object to his delivery mechanism, which is disgraceful... I think he should also be a bit more pragmatic... if he entices people to stay home during the election, we're looking at French-looking Ketchup boy for 8 years. That would mean 16 years of libs, wrapped around 4 years of moderate conservatism. It would destroy us.

57 posted on 01/28/2004 7:58:26 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican
You've got to be kidding! He's been off his nut for years. He's the Howard Stern of political talk radio, a shock jock, more shrill than anyone I've ever seen...

Yeah, anyone who opposes Bush and calls his policies "liberal" (which indeed they are) - is a nut. Savage is right on about the enemy within - liberalism is DESTROYING America. The founders did not establish a socialist state, but a constitutional republic with ltd. government. That republic is now dead - thanks to socialist liberals.

Instead of calling Savage a nut, why don't you try disputing any of his claims about liberalism or Bush. Try arguing issues - what a concept!

58 posted on 01/28/2004 7:58:57 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: petercooper
How can Bush’s advisers not understand this issue? I don’t understand them. Every poll, even the ABC polls are showing that Americans have an opposing view on this issue.

Because Bush and his advisors are telling the American people to shut up, get back to work and pay your taxes. Bush is telling the American people that he could care less what they want, or what they think. Bush is King, we are just stupid tax payers.

59 posted on 01/28/2004 7:59:29 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Dane
Savage is a suck up to his own ego.

If I'd written l7 books, and had a PhD, and was working hard to save America, despite the hatred of many, I'd enjopy a pretty good ego myself.

Do you have a PhD, Dane?

60 posted on 01/28/2004 7:59:36 AM PST by swampfox98
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