Who says George W. Bush has done "nothing" for conservatives?

WhiteHouse.gov; various news sources ^ | 1/27/04

[longtermmemmory]

I met a former democrat who had, in his words, made the mistake of voting for gore. He says the thing that makes him certain he will vote for Bush this time around is the image of Bush walking along off of marine 1 on 9/11. That image conveyed all he needed to know about the man.

This is a man with two kids and a wife. He said no way would a democrat make him trust his families national security with them.

I call him a model for the Daddy vote.

[Texasforever]

You really think that the conservative voting block is not important?

Hell no it isn't even real.. That bloc went over the hill in 1992 and has never come back.

[Delphinium]

Oh get over your bad self.

What is your problem with me?

What exactly offends you most about the bad me? My stand for Life?

I honestly thought I was having a polite discussion.

[Sabertooth]

But what is the difference between that and the folks here screaming at everyone to vote for Tancredo or Peroutka? Voting for them is JUST AS MUCH voting opposition as voting for the Democrat. Since I believe that Bush and the GOP are the best vehicle for furthering my values at this point then I don't care how close someone is to me philosophically... if they are voting against Bush they are political opposition.

Or, they're swing voters.

If they are, then why are they swinging away from President Bus?

It's not going to be enough to assume they're malcontents. Have you seen the CPAC threads? It won't be enough to expect people to vote as you do for the reasons you do.

Heck, I'm voting for Bush, but I'm really not happy about it, nor with his performance domestically. I'm not even voting for him for the reasons that you are; so how do we regain the votes that have one foot out the door?

We listen, and we find out why they are leaving. They'll usually tell us.

And they are telling us that they have serious problems with some of the policies of President Bush. Whether or not you think those are valid problems is not really the point, because their votes count as much as yours.

So what's the solution to regaining those votes?

Impact the policies of the President and the GOP that are disaffecting them.

That's why there's such a hullaballoo; not only on FR, but on talk radio and throughout the country and the Republican Party.

[Tamzee]

Our doors and windows to our home have been left wide open, and millions are jumping through those doors and windows unabated, at will. Those that are not gravely concerned, either have an agenda or have been asleep for a long time.

Ahhh, that's funny.... you've stated you will be voting for Tancredo. First grade math shows that this can only help put the Democrat (probably Kerry) into office.... and Kerry will shut those doors and windows how exactly?

[Mo1]

Try live in some other reality. :-)

Same here

[Texasforever]

Polite? Saying those that disagree with you stand for nothing? LOL

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ROFL!!!!

I was really feeling bad for the poor guy till the line about 2 sons killed in Iraq and having to live in a hole in the ground and it suddenly clicked who the poor guy was!
HAHa!

[longtermmemmory]

All the conservative for third party whiners seem to forget that any conservative objective will be hampered as long as the democrat party exists. The democrat party does not provide balance they provide the enemies of the USA's future. (clinton saying the USA will not exist in 20 years etc.) Obliterate the Democrat Party THEN the important debate will be between the conservative voices.

The math is for more than a win, we want a mandate.

[Sabertooth]

I met a former democrat who had, in his words, made the mistake of voting for gore. He says the thing that makes him certain he will vote for Bush this time around is the image of Bush walking along off of marine 1 on 9/11. That image conveyed all he needed to know about the man.

This is a man with two kids and a wife. He said no way would a democrat make him trust his families national security with them.

Yeah, I know a few Democrats like that, and some of them are even bachelors.

9/11 changed everything, except the anti-war myopia of the Democrat Party.

The only Dem Presidential candidates that had a clue were Gephardt and Lieberman, and they're dead and failing. Heck, even Bill Clinton has more of a clue on Iraq than Kerry or Dean.

It's sad really. While it's good for GOP prosepects, I can't believe the country or the Republicans are better off that the Democrats are so morally adrift.

[Mo1]

(Thank you, Bush supporters, for fighting the good fight.)

I'll second that!

[Grampa Dave]

I think that most of us had too much empathy for this so called poor guy until we got the end.

[longtermmemmory]

Should the list now include his explicit statement that marriage is one man and one woman?

[gatorbait]

You know, with all this Jorge Bush stuff, do you wonder where these true believers were when Clinton/Gore did their amnesty/citizenship/voter registration? I'd bet that they were busily shouting far and wide that Bob Dole was a RINO that was not pro-life,gun,anti immigrant,tin foil hatted enough and not a REAL conservative(which he never claimed he was) and felt smugly renewed when Clinton did win. After all, they showed us, huh?

[Tamzee]

We listen, and we find out why they are leaving. They'll usually tell us.

Many are politically naive enough to believe they should be able to get more of what they want than is politically possible.

Take gay marriage... some hard liberals are very angry that they don't have gay marriage yet and are screaming that they will bolt the Democrats because they aren't fighting hard enough to pass gay marraige. We on the right think that is BEAUTIFUL because we know that the best way they can push forward any of their agenda is by supporting the Democrat candidate and helping put the Dems in the White House and a firm majority in Congress. They gay marriage advocates may not get gay marraige immediately or completely.... but they will get more of what they want by backing the Dems. They worked AGAINST their own interests when they voted for Nader and put Bush into office.

It's the same on the right... we don't get everything we want but we get a hell of a lot more with the moderate GOP in office than a leftie. I'll fight with everything I have in me to keep Kerry out of the White House, even if that means fighting against fellow conservatives willing to help put him there.

[Delphinium]

Saying those that disagree with you stand for nothing?

I said usually they do not stand for anything.I guess I did mis speak because if they don't stand for life, than it's death that they stand for.

Sometimes people say that because they are supporting a RINO and want to convince me to vote for them because they wear the R label.

I know very little about Tamsey and might find alot of agreement. I did not make that statement to him.

[Tamzee]

Obliterate the Democrat Party THEN the important debate will be between the conservative voices.

Oh heavens, YES... that is the only way we are going to save the country now that the Democrat Party has totally corrupted itself by becoming allies with our enemies abroad.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Don't fall for that "Oh, your a one issue person huh".

That's pure libspeak.

If one's house is on fire and burning to the ground, one would have a tendency to be a one issue person, and focus his energy on putting out the fire.

Our doors and windows to our home have been left wide open, and millions are jumping through those doors and windows unabated, at will. Those that are not gravely concerned, either have an agenda or have been asleep for a long time.

Ahhh, that's funny....

You think?

you've stated you will be voting for Tancredo.

I did?

First grade math shows that this can only help put the Democrat (probably Kerry) into office.... and Kerry will shut those doors and windows how exactly?

The same way Bush should have done, by enacting the hundreds of solutions that have been documented here and elsewhere many, many times over many years.

If you care to see these solutions, look back in the hundreds of immigration threads. Check back with me when your done.

[Delphinium]

Hell no it isn't even real.. That bloc went over the hill in 1992 and has never come back.

You are not making sense, if it wasn't for the religious right W wouldn't have won.

Do you vote Republican? And for what reasons?

[longtermmemmory]

actually I don't think democrats and their party are morally adrift. They are only expressing their version of morality with greater clarity to the rest of us due to the world around. They are also dying, so as they become closer to oblivion, they work harder to rally their true believers. Who was left to defend Nazi Berlin? Why was hitler callin in divisions that no longer existed?

I don't think the pendulum model is valid anymore. It is no longer an issue of swinging left or right. I think the new reality is going to be eliminating wrong from right.

Clark kissing up to moore, Dean's yehaa, Kerry's anti-war stance only expose their glaring and dated party's insanity.