The Chemical Basis of AIDS

Doc Savage

[TheMole]

The incidence of AIDS among the victims of needle-stick accidents would also indicate an infectious agent rather than environmental exposure.

Well, this is one of the major problems I have with the standard theory. I've never heard of an actual case of somebody getting AIDS from a needle-stick accident. Not a doctor, not a nurse, not an EMT, or policeman, or firefighter. I live in a large city with supposedly one of the largest numbers of AIDS cases in the developed world. I have never heard of a person who wasn't leading either a fast-lane gay lifestyle including "recreational" drugs or living as a heroin or cocaine addict getting AIDS. There were hundreds of HIV-positive prostitutes identified in studies done in this city in the 1990s (all of them drug users) but I have never heard of a case of a customer developing AIDS as a result. So what's going on here? I don't know, but it doesn't look like a contagious disease to me.

[realpatriot71]

HIV spread via accidental "needle-stick" injuries of healthcare workers is rare, but not undoccumented - it happens. Do a Google with "HIV spread needlestick positive case"

[InterceptPoint]

what more do you want?

Proof of Koch's Postulates. They remain unproven. Give us 100 monkeys infected with HIV and developing AIDS. Why not? Becuause they would not develop AIDS and they would not die. Not in one year, not it ten. And Magic Johnson looks pretty healthy to me.

[PatrickHenry]

This reminds me of a CREVO thread.

Everything reminds me of a CREVO thread.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

MAYBE this thoery would have more "gravitas" if it were published in a legitimate medical journal....not on our beloved far-right online newsgroup. Doc Savage, where else are you published? Anywhere a bit more credible in these matters? Also, why haven't you stuck around for any replies? Just curious.

[1stFreedom]

>> It doesn't even satisfy his 1st. HIV is not found in all AIDS patients.

There are other conditions for a weakend immune system. The difference is the fact that AIDS is ACQUIRED! The fact that HIV may not be present in these situations does not mean that AIDS isn't caused by HIV -- it means that particular person didn't Acquire it, not through HIV at least.

Also, the broad definition of AIDS illnesses may lump some people who naturally have an illness to be included in the AIDS stastics.

[realpatriot71]

Proof of Koch's Postulates. They remain unproven. Give us 100 monkeys infected with HIV and developing AIDS. Why not? Becuause they would not develop AIDS and they would not die. Not in one year, not it ten. And Magic Johnson looks pretty healthy to me.

I don't have to give you 100 monkeys, because I can easily give you a few 1000 humans infected with HIV and developing AIDS. You sound like those people who refuse to wear a seat-belt becuase of one certain isolated story where a person was actually worse because they wore their belt or were beter because they didn't wear their seatbelts. Magic was dx'ed in shape, in the prime of his life with enough money to have been on the best medications form the start. Of course he still looks ok. So, if HIV doesn't cause AIDS, would you mind being infected with HIv to prove your point? Probably not, but you can hold your hands over your ears and yell, "nah, nah, nah, nah!!!" if it's going to make you feel beter.

[Tribune7]

OK, thanks.

[Jim Noble]

Don't waste your time on this.

No amount of evidence is enough.

What happened in mid-1995?

Finally, there were enough poisonous antivirals spread around to cause mortality to....

plummet.

[tallhappy]

You asked: "What are this Koch person's credentials?"

That would be like asking what is this Einstein fellow's credentials when the subject were nuclear physics.

It was actually an incredibly ludicrous thing for you to say.

[tallhappy]

Link please. New PCR techniques disproves this.

Can you cite the reference.

[annyokie]

It was actually an incredibly ludicrous thing for you to say. I didn't know who he was. Now I do. There is no shame in asking for information about the unfamiliar. Thank you for that information.

[tallhappy]

I can easily give you a few 1000 humans infected with HIV and developing AIDS.

OK. Do it.

[tallhappy]

Interesting.

My impression is the HIV cauzes AIDS is the biggest most used and effective propaganda the homsoexual agenda has had and used.

It's hard to understand where you are coming from or your rationales for thinking attributing the higher rates of disease and death in the homosexual community to unhealthy activities is somehow part of the homosexual agenda.

[tallhappy]

No shames, yes.

You seemed to be taking an attitude about it, though. No problem now.

[annyokie]

I'm sorry if it came across that way. I certainly didn't mean it like that. Thanks again.

[InterceptPoint]

with enough money to have been on the best medications

What medications is he taking?

[realpatriot71]

Enjoy

[realpatriot71]

What medications is he taking?

Medical records are confidential, but you can take a look at this news story. It's no secret that he takes antivirals.

[hgro]

Is this QUEER or what?