Posted on 01/23/2004 12:18:57 PM PST by NorCoGOP
completely false.
Can you support your claim with any facts or logic?
Nice Jesse Jackson like slogan. But, of course, completely false.
Can you support your claim with any facts or logic?
Of course. I'll use an extraordinarily simple example to show this. If you want an more complex example later feel free to request it. Read carefully, there will be an exam on it tomorrow.
Lets say that a voting district has 1000 registered voters in it. 494 are registered Democrat, 494 Republican, 6 Green Party, and 6 Libertarian. On election day 494 Democrats vote Extreme Liberal Democrat. The 6 Green party members split their vote and vote half Green, half Extreme Liberal Democrat. OK, now, the 494 Republicans vote for the Republican. Although, this Republican isn't perfect in the Libertarian's mind because she voted straight line conservative on all issues except legalizing pot. So, in a show of "I'm voting my conscience and this Republicrat isn't perfect" all 6 Libertarians vote for the Libertarian candidate (or write in Pat Buchanan, whichever) because the Republicrat betrayed them by wanting pot to stay illegal. The vote Totals are:
Extreme Liberal Democrat 497
Green 3
Libertarian 6
Republican 494
Well look!... The Libertarians, by getting their panties in a wad over the republican's one horrendous vote, went with their conscience and voted against electing a conservative republican. They voted for the person who got 0.6 percent of the vote. This gives the Extreme Liberal Democrat the WIN!!! Now, if 4 out of 6 of the Libertarians held their noses and voted for the conservative Republican, who by the way is horrible because she voted against making pot freely available, and legal, the Republican would have won.
This is how a vote for Mr/Mrs. 0.0001 percenter is a vote for the extreme liberal candidate. The Greens did it to Algore last election by not voting for him (if they would have went with Algore he would have won). The Libertarians almost succeeded in electing Algore by voting against Bush (if they would have gone with Bush their would have been no need for the court challenges because it wouldn't have been close enough to warrant them). Maybe this election the Libertarians will get a Kerry/Dean/Edwards win!
Again, this was a very simplified example but it can easily be expanded to cover millions of voters. And, it reflects reality.
The other option, which many refuse to take, is to work within the system. Vote for the candidate who has a chance of winning (0.0001 percent isn't a chance) then lobby them hard for your wishes. Or, keep screaming about your principals and continue to help liberals win.
She voted against expanding Medicare, the anti-First-Amendment McCain-Feingold bill, and loosening penalties for illegal immigration? Then she's got my vote!
Extreme Liberal Democrat 497
Green 3
Libertarian 6
Republican 494
One can just as well say the 494 elected the liberal by not voting Libertarian.
Once again, false statement. One can only say that if Libertarians were in the game. They are not.
For proof, please post the percentages, in presidential elections, that the Libertarian candidate has gotten over the party's lifetime.
So you claim---with no support in facts or logic.
LOL!!! You dismiss facts and logic by simply claiming that none was there. Go back and re-read my posts. I'm now starting to see into the Libertarian mind. Facts and logic don't matter, or don't exist, if they don't support the libertarian.
Please post logic and facts that show that Libertarians are competitively in the game to win the presidency.
And remember, based on your logic, that being that the candidate simply has to be on the ballot, Mickey Mouse and Bozo The Clown are just as much in the game as the Libertarian candidate because their names appear on the ballot by write-in votes.
I understand that you will vote for the looser candidate no matter what the results. SO. I'll stop here. Good luck to your 0.00001 percenter. Hopefully your vote won't be the one that elects the liberal democrat.
Straw man. Even if they're not "competitively in the game" by your definition, it remains true that "One can just as well say the 494 elected the liberal by not voting Libertarian," since it is obviously true that if the 494 had voted for the Libertarian he would have won.
Mickey Mouse and Bozo The Clown are just as much in the game as the Libertarian candidate because their names appear on the ballot by write-in votes.
False---a candidate must meet certain qualifications for write-in votes to be tallied (at least in Illinois).
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