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Confused Democrats renew attack on Free State Project

Posted on 01/21/2004 10:30:45 PM PST by Dada Orwell

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To: freeeee
Caption This! Open up John!
21 posted on 01/22/2004 7:23:50 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You...You sit down! You've had your say and now I'll have mine!!!!)
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To: AAABEST; A.J.Armitage; archy; austingirl; BADROTOFINGER; Baseballguy; bc2; Beck_isright; ...
ping; I think this list is yours?

I certainly maintain at least one that's related. PorcuPing!


22 posted on 01/22/2004 9:47:38 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: kingu
Is there a link to the audio report? Silly Democrats - they just hate it when people don't want to be part of their grand social experiment.

There's no link to any audio file at the FSP website media reports archive, but I'll nose around some of the FSP webboards and see if anyone has anything posted thereabouts. No guarantees, of course, but we'll see.

-archy-/-

23 posted on 01/22/2004 9:51:31 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
This is understandable if she was raised in a government school.

Heh, heh, heh.

24 posted on 01/22/2004 9:55:50 AM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I know some will hate this comparison but illegal aliens have proved this idea will work using an entire country. Look at the political power they have now.

Well, it's certainly not an exact parallel:

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

parallel porkypine NH paraphrase:

"We have Texas, soon we will have Vermont, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New Jersey. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million 20 to 50 thousand Mexicans Porcupines and they are going into Portsmouth, into Dover , into Exeter, into Conway, into Laconia, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Democrats."

25 posted on 01/22/2004 10:05:48 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: StriperSniper
This is understandable if she was raised in a government school.

Heh, heh, heh.

You familiar with Al Gores somewhat similar gaffe- or maybe not- from the Gore-Bush debates?

-archy-/-

26 posted on 01/22/2004 10:07:53 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Ever since you got here, this thread stinks!

Go pee in someone else's punchbowl.
27 posted on 01/22/2004 10:33:56 AM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)
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To: Cultural Jihad
If not locking somebody up is imposing tolerance on him, do you object to my imposing my tolerance on you?
28 posted on 01/22/2004 12:35:44 PM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: archy
You familiar with Al Gores somewhat similar gaffe- or maybe not- from the Gore-Bush debates?

I must have forgot that one, got a link?

29 posted on 01/22/2004 1:19:08 PM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: Cultural Jihad
In a real Free State meth would be sold over the couter, and liability insurers would not write a policy on a meth lab located in a populated area and not using proper safety protocols and equipment.
30 posted on 01/22/2004 1:23:41 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: bc2
Ever since you got here, this thread stinks!

Go pee in someone else's punchbowl.

27 posted on 01/22/2004 10:33:56 AM PST by bc2 (http://thinkforyourself.us)




That is the whole Idea. Stiffle others opinions.
Expect the Kool aid kids to come running any time.

31 posted on 01/22/2004 1:25:08 PM PST by Area51 (I was captured by the thought police, they don't like Aliens....So I am baaaaaaaaaaaaack!)
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To: meenie; Eaker
and take the old Texas Republic

This isn't going to happen. Mexifornia may become a reality but in Texas, the 2nd amendment is more than a concept.

32 posted on 01/22/2004 1:30:30 PM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: StriperSniper
You familiar with Al Gores somewhat similar gaffe- or maybe not- from the Gore-Bush debates?

I must have forgot that one, got a link?

You betcha. I figured Gore describing himself as a Communist was worth bookmarking.

But I wanted to address something Al Gore said in last Tuesday's debate that was overlooked by all the other pontificating windbags.

"But look, Jim," Gore said as if he were having a dialogue with moderator Jim Lehrer, "the world is changing so rapidly, the way I see it, the world's getting much closer together. Like it or not, we are now -- the United States is now the natural leader of the world. All these other countries are looking to us."

Gore was explaining why the United States should not concern itself too much with how and why it commits military forces around the world.

"Now just because we cannot be involved everywhere, and shouldn't be, doesn't mean that we should shy away from going in anywhere."

This one bears repeating in my estimation.

"Now just because we cannot be involved everywhere, and shouldn't be, doesn't mean that we should shy away from going in anywhere."

Gore believes the U.S. should not shy away from sending troops anywhere, anytime. That's the man who is dangerously close to becoming president.

I think at the very moment those words came out of Gore's mouth, he realized he had said something that betrayed his actual opinions about the deployment of U.S. troops and the neo-imperialist approach of the Clinton-Gore era.

Notice where Gore went from there: "Now both of us are kind of, I guess, stating the other's position in a -- (laughs) -- in a maximalist, extreme way, but I think there is a difference here."

Gore was uneasy. He tried to make light of what he was saying. What caught my attention at the time I heard it was the word "maximalist." I hadn't heard that word in a long time. But I didn't know why. It seemed out of place. It seemed like a slip of the tongue.

Had Gore committed a Dan Quayle-style malapropism? No, actually, it was something much more interesting.

Here's the Websters Third International Dictionary entry for "maximalistic": "From maximaliste, fr. *maximal* + *iste* [-st]; intended as translation of Russian (bol'shevik) Bolshevik: One that believes in or advocates immediate and direct action to secure the whole of a program or set of goals; specifically, a socialist advocating the immediate seizure of power by revolutionary means as opposed to gradual achievement of limited aims [as by the process of parliamentary democracy]."

There you have it. I knew I had heard that word before, but not for some time. It must have been 20 or 30 years ago when I was studying communism. It's not a word in my vocabulary. And I doubt it's a word in the vocabulary of most Americans. But it is, interestingly, in the vocabulary of Al Gore.

That's right, Al Gore, who, from birth was in the hip pocket of oil-baron Armand Hammer, friend to Lenin, friend to Stalin, friend to every Russian tyrant who succeeded them. The same Hammer who funneled hard cash to the Communist Party USA. You might call him Maximalist Armand Hammer.

Al Gore was groomed to be president from boyhood by his father, a senator who was totally compromised by his relations with Hammer and the money he took from him, as well as Hammer himself, who took a personal interest in Al Gore Jr. when he became a congressman. Hammer, meanwhile, was Moscow's pipeline to the capitalist funds it always needed to keep the illusion of socialism alive.

I think the Manchurian Candidate goofed. I've heard of a Freudian slip, but, until now, I've never witnessed a Marxian slip.

33 posted on 01/22/2004 1:52:20 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Dada Orwell
In 2003 some 78,000 people moved from the Taxachussets regulatory state up to New Hampshire, and tens of thousands of others from other Democrat-dominated New England states. I wonder why Miss Democrat Party isn't criticizing those folks? The only difference between them and us Free Staters is that we choose to publically identify the reasons why we're moving to New Hampshire.
34 posted on 01/22/2004 4:02:13 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: archy
Thanks for the ping. I'm on board.
35 posted on 01/22/2004 4:07:48 PM PST by katz (Rush Rocks)
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To: archy
Thanks

That's right, Al Gore, who, from birth was in the hip pocket of oil-baron Armand Hammer, friend to Lenin, friend to Stalin, friend to every Russian tyrant who succeeded them. The same... ... I think the Manchurian Candidate goofed. I've heard of a Freudian slip, but, until now, I've never witnessed a Marxian slip.

It sounds like a bad Bond movie.

And people laugh when I check for Reds under the bed. ;-)

36 posted on 01/22/2004 4:24:34 PM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: StriperSniper
It sounds like a bad Bond movie.

And people laugh when I check for Reds under the bed. ;-)

Ever notice the funny way Gore holds his cigarettes? And uses a knife and fork?


37 posted on 01/22/2004 4:52:25 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
Ever notice the funny way Gore holds his cigarettes? And uses a knife and fork?

Hmmmmm....... ;-)

38 posted on 01/22/2004 4:56:13 PM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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To: mvpel

So I gather the Free State police will somehow force Joe Sovereign to get liability insurance? Who's going to stop him from making bootleg meth on his own private driveway if that is what he really wants to do?

39 posted on 01/22/2004 5:03:41 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Why would he bother? It's dangerous.
40 posted on 01/22/2004 5:50:37 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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