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Bush Amnesty Plan Threatens U.S. Economy
Fox ^ | January 21, 2004 | Matt Hayes

Posted on 01/21/2004 12:49:02 AM PST by sarcasm

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:38:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 01/21/2004 12:49:03 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
Bump
2 posted on 01/21/2004 12:50:43 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: AnimalLover; sarcasm
This is a well-written article, and it is correct.
3 posted on 01/21/2004 12:58:06 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Michael Peroutka for President)
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To: sarcasm
I've rethought Fox's sentiments towards the USA, and the "amnesty plan" by extension; I've concluded I was wrong. I support the idea of retaking Mexico along the boundaries of conquest after the Mexican-American War of the mid-1840's. Imagine the wealth and greatness the poor Mexicans will receive. imagine the immense storehouse of minerals and oil the USA will annex.

There is a downside: TJ and all the other Mexican tourist towns will be more expensive. But imagine the savings of narrowing our border to just Guatamala and Hondurus.
4 posted on 01/21/2004 12:58:44 AM PST by sully777 (Pragmatic quixotic not catastrophic neurotic.)
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5 posted on 01/21/2004 1:00:17 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Michael Peroutka for President)
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To: sarcasm
Good points. Under the doctrine of corporatism, posing as conservative, we import cheap labor rather than pay higher wages which would only marginally increase consumer costs or, as an alternative, cause inventiveness and technology improvements that would eliminate the need for the lower cost labor. As a result we suppress rather than encourage growth.
6 posted on 01/21/2004 1:01:41 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: The_Eaglet
How does a PLAN wreck the economy?
7 posted on 01/21/2004 1:04:04 AM PST by Texasforever
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Under the Bush amnesty, we could see a crew of Saudis cleaning nuclear reactors for $35.20 each per day.

I agree with a lot of what this article says, but this statement describes a highly unlikely situation and is a transparent play on emotion. There are enough real reasons why the amnesty program is bad that we don't need stupid arguments muddling the debate.
There are probably some benefits to the amnesty program though, one of them being the encouragement of higher education by destroying the market for high-school-only education.
8 posted on 01/21/2004 1:12:24 AM PST by billybudd
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To: sarcasm
Another post on how this is about tech workers. The writing's on the wall for H1b and L1 as the American public sees it for what it is. So you have to usher in a new jobs bill that will keep the H1bs here -- and probably even offer less "protection" than the requirement that they tried to hire an American but they couldn't.
9 posted on 01/21/2004 1:20:25 AM PST by lelio
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There are probably some benefits to the amnesty program though, one of them being the encouragement of higher education by destroying the market for high-school-only education.

What about Americans who are not capable of pursuing a college level education?

10 posted on 01/21/2004 1:25:41 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: JustPiper
Bump for later.
11 posted on 01/21/2004 3:59:18 AM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Bush border BS bump
12 posted on 01/21/2004 5:05:19 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; JustPiper; Joe Hadenuf; gubamyster; Pro-Bush
ping
13 posted on 01/21/2004 5:42:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: sarcasm
"What about Americans who are not capable of pursuing a college level education?"

They're probably already unemployed & fighting for a job with an illegal. The job they are fighting over probably pays about $4.00/hr, with no benefits, no overtime, and no future.
14 posted on 01/21/2004 5:53:04 AM PST by familyofman
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To: billybudd
Under the Bush amnesty, we could see a crew of Saudis cleaning nuclear reactors for $35.20 each per day.

I agree with a lot of what this article says, but this statement describes a highly unlikely situation and is a transparent play on emotion.

Yes, the author could have helped his argument via any less nonsensical example.

But all in all, a good commentary. Bush is a well-meaning fool at best or the vilest sort of calculating politician at worst.

I don't think Bush is a fool. He governed Texas, he knows full-well the consequences of his proposed border policies.

15 posted on 01/21/2004 5:54:06 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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To: Texasforever
"How does a PLAN wreck the economy?"

When the plan is ill concieved, such as this one. Just because something is planned, does not mean that it will work as planned.
16 posted on 01/21/2004 6:09:45 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: familyofman
"They're probably already unemployed & fighting for a job with an illegal. The job they are fighting over probably pays about $4.00/hr, with no benefits, no overtime, and no future."

At least they would be off the public dole if they got a job.
17 posted on 01/21/2004 6:12:07 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: sarcasm
The perpetually disgruntled are being heavily targeted with mindgames this election cycle.
18 posted on 01/21/2004 6:15:06 AM PST by Consort
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The crux of the problem is that there are jobs for which employers do not pay enough. So of course, in this one area of the economy, the law of supply and demand isn't good enough, so we'll reward lawbreakers on BOTH sides of the employmnet equation.
19 posted on 01/21/2004 6:16:35 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: sarcasm
Also, what about teenagers that are have not yet graduated from high school?
20 posted on 01/21/2004 6:17:05 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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