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Democrat Response Live Thread.
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Posted on 01/20/2004 7:19:19 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

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To: g'nad
9-11 and 3,000 dead Americans, have you heard this before? It takes money and scrutiny to defend America from attack.
281 posted on 01/21/2004 5:19:45 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: ConservativeMan55
Best Dem responses were during GWB's speech.

Teddy looking drunk, again
Charlie Rangle asleep
Hillary with a corn cob up...

And by brining his kid, Jessie Jackson Jr almost looked like he was approving speech!
282 posted on 01/21/2004 5:20:49 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station !!!)
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To: river rat
"Chiefly British Variant of practice."

Not in these United States of America!

Semper Fi

The name of the poster that used the variant was westcoastfreedomlover. It may be too great a stretch of the imagination, but this being the Internet, perhaps that person was actually from ... never mind ... You agree the word was not misspelled. To discuss the matter any further is moot. Suffice to say, when on an American based website, spell as the Americans do. < /snicker >.

283 posted on 01/21/2004 5:28:53 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty; SLB; ConservativeMan55; Clock King
But didn't she begin with this part of JFK's speech? ...("ask not what your country can do for you") If she did, then she should have finished with, "ask what you can do for your country".

What was her first JFK phrase exactly?

284 posted on 01/21/2004 5:30:57 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
I thought Pelosi did misquote JFK. What exactly did she say?

Please see President John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address for a full text of his speech.

The parts in question are as follows:

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

...

Last night, in the democratic response speech, pelosi stated the following:

As a nation, we must show our greatness, not just our strength. America must be a light to the world, not just a missile. Forty-three years ago today, as a college student standing in the freezing cold outside this Capitol building, I heard President Kennedy issue this challenge in his inaugural address: "My fellow citizens of the world," he said, "ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

The full text of the democratic response speech can be found here.

285 posted on 01/21/2004 5:38:23 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: ConservativeMan55
Well...she is from San Francisco. But I didn't know she was Libertarian.

Are you sure that wasn't lesbitarian.

286 posted on 01/21/2004 5:43:56 AM PST by connectthedots (Don't come to a tank battle with a pen knife)
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To: new cruelty; ConservativeMan55; LisaMalia; Clock King; SLB
And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

WHAT EXACTLY did Nancy Pelosi say? You have successfully shown that Kennedy's quote was more than the first famous sentence of the well-known quote. But, what did Pelosi say? Do you know?

I believe she did speak, whatever her words, to make JFK's words apply to America having to ask permission from the rest of the world (UN) to go to war or similarly. She seemed to try to mold JFK's words into a plea to get America on its knees to the rest of the world.

As I said, I was nearly sleeping at the time, but it sure seemed sneaky to me, and the Rats ARE sneaky!

287 posted on 01/21/2004 5:47:06 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: netmilsmom; Hunble; SLB; new cruelty; Clock King; LisaMalia; ConservativeMan55
Can you put the Kennedy quote next to the Pelosi screw up?

No. Just put the Pelosi QUOTE next to the Kennedy QUOTE. It is apparent there was a second part of the JFK quote that is more like what Pelosi said last night. Well, WHAT did she say? Come on, nc.

288 posted on 01/21/2004 5:52:36 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Did you read the second half of my response to you? I posted pelosi's words and a link to the full text of the democratic response.
289 posted on 01/21/2004 5:53:08 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: thesummerwind
LOL, are you too lazy to juxtapose both quotes for yourself?
290 posted on 01/21/2004 5:54:45 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
"My fellow citizens of the world," he said, "ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

The Botox Queen and Dashole really had lame responses to the SOTU. This misquote mad me screem at the TV. I called her "You lying Botox Bi+c#."

Then the Puffster with the following comment:

We believe that we have to honor the promises we've made to the millions of families who worked hard, played by the rules and have earned a retirement of dignity.

My question to the Puffster is: #1. If you want to honor the promises of millions of familes who worked hard, then why don't you propose legislation to end welfare?

#2. If you want to allow people who play by the rules and have earned a retirement of dignity, why don't you propose legislation to end the current retirement system for Congress and pay YOUR own way?

291 posted on 01/21/2004 5:56:10 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! Do not use this tag line for anything other than its intended purpose!)
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To: Arrowhead1952; thesummerwind
In 1961 Kennedy said-

"My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Last night, pelosi quoted Kennedy and said -

"My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

I don't see this as a misquote. nancy just quoted what seems to be a lesser known portion of Kennedy's speech. The part she quoted plays more towards her desire to form a "true coalition" of nations.

292 posted on 01/21/2004 6:03:02 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Arrowhead1952
#1. If you want to honor the promises of millions of familes who worked hard, then why don't you propose legislation to end welfare?

#2. If you want to allow people who play by the rules and have earned a retirement of dignity, why don't you propose legislation to end the current retirement system for Congress and pay YOUR own way?

Capital thinking.

293 posted on 01/21/2004 6:09:43 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty; ConservativeMan55; LisaMalia; Clock King; SLB; doug from upland; billorites; ...
Last night, in the democratic response speech, Pelosi stated the following: As a nation, we must show our greatness, not just our strength. America must be a light to the world, not just a missile. Forty-three years ago today, as a college student standing in the freezing cold outside this Capitol building, I heard President Kennedy issue this challenge in his inaugural address: "My fellow citizens of the world," he said, "ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."

Then as you note, Karla Marx (Nancy) got a JFK quote right last night.

BUT, she gave the JFK quote RIGHT AFTER saying this, "As a nation, we must show our greatness, not just our strength. America must be a light to the world, not just a missile.

She got the JFK quote correct, but her use of it in this "missle" context is rather clear. She was pointing to our strength and war-like demeanor rather than our other great and positive characteristics. It was sneaky, negative, critical and underhanded of her, IMHO, but at least she got the quote right. Congrats, Nancy!

Thanks for clearing things up. I find fault with her MISUSE of the quote, not the use of the quote itself.

294 posted on 01/21/2004 6:10:23 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: jolie560
I like how she said Toooo-gether. Toooo-gether.. Toooo-gether.. Toooo-gether..

loser
295 posted on 01/21/2004 6:12:26 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: thesummerwind
I find fault with her MISUSE of the quote, not the use of the quote itself.

Agreed. Simply put, nan was trying to build a case for claiming the United States may be strong but not great nor a light to the world.

296 posted on 01/21/2004 6:14:48 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
I don't see this as a misquote. nancy just quoted what seems to be a lesser known portion of Kennedy's speech. The part she quoted plays more towards her desire to form a "true coalition" of nations.

I agree with you on the quote, but she left out this part just before it for OBVIOUS reasons: Purley Political.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country.

297 posted on 01/21/2004 6:20:07 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (WARNING! Do not use this tag line for anything other than its intended purpose!)
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To: new cruelty; ConservativeMan55; Clock King; SLB; LisaMalia
Simply put, nan was trying to build a case for claiming the United States may be strong but not great nor a light to the world.

Perfect!

BTW, do her eyes ever close? ;)

You've been so wise on this thread, I'll pass this great Nancy Pelosi nickname list along to you (and others).

BellaPelosi…..

TaxMistress….

Old What's Her Name….

Nancy PeLoser….

Nancy Pelosi-Marx….

Hillary Lite.….

Nancy Soprano…..

That Crazy Frisco Broad…..

JALS--Just Another Liberal Skank…..

The Bay City Baby Killer…..

The Permanent House Minority Party Leader…

WHO ?….

Harpie Marxist….

The Whine-ority Leader….

Screecher of the House….

Nancy "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane" Pelosi….

Ms. RAT….

Norma Desmond ("I'M READY FOR MY CLOSE UP, MR. DeMILLE!")….

BoTox-osi….

Nancy von Trotsky….

Countess Demo-cratula….

The Belladonna of Berkeley….

Mommy Dearest….

Ivana Taxalot….

Nancy Wellstoneski….

Frau Bleucher….

Facelift Barbie….

Pelosi Sarcoma….

Ming the Mirthless….

Peloscialist….

The Alpha Lefty….

Nancy Bellacosi…..

Nanny State Nancy….

Pelosi-Roni, the San Francisco threat….

Nancy Tax and Spendloosely…..

and my very favorite, Karla Marx….

298 posted on 01/21/2004 6:30:58 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Jim Noble; ConservativeMan55
I don't know how he can bear it either.
That's mental torture banned by the Geneva convention and honest psychologists worldwide.
CM55, you earned some rest after that.
ALOT of rest.
299 posted on 01/21/2004 6:31:51 AM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)
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To: thesummerwind
BTW, do her eyes ever close? ;)

LOL. My wife said she looks like she has tooth picks holding her eyes open.


300 posted on 01/21/2004 6:37:16 AM PST by new cruelty
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