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Anthrax Mailings: Connecting the Dots [to al-Qaeda]
PHXnews.com ^ | 18 Jan. 2004 | Ross E. Getman

Posted on 01/19/2004 11:00:30 PM PST by flamefront

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No one had posted any of this. It is just showing up as a series of articles on PHXnews, here are some:

Seems very plausible. As usual, your comments invited.

Who is Ross Getman and why does he have this insight?

1 posted on 01/19/2004 11:00:31 PM PST by flamefront
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To: flamefront
does anyone recall how soon after 9/11 the anthrax mailings started showing up? ... I was so engrossed with the WTC, Pentagon and Flight 93 that I don't remember ...

the reason I ask is I'm wondering if somebody capitalized on 9/11 or whether there were additional links ...
2 posted on 01/19/2004 11:14:14 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: flamefront
Found this: and contributes to biohazardnews.net
3 posted on 01/19/2004 11:14:55 PM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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To: Bobby777
I believe it was seven days after 9/11/02. Certainly no more than 2 weeks.
4 posted on 01/19/2004 11:16:03 PM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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To: Bobby777
The four recovered anthrax letters were postmarked on Sept. 18 and Oct. 9 in Trenton.
5 posted on 01/19/2004 11:21:54 PM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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To: flamefront
It seems that this info has been posted by Getman on the web first in July 2003 as "Al Qaeda, Anthrax, and Ayman Zawahiri."
6 posted on 01/19/2004 11:33:50 PM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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Has anyone addressed how much "weaponized" anthrax would be a realistic estimate of the quantity produced assuming a "lone nut" and not a foreign government?

Is there any likelihood that the small quantities in the 4 letters was all that would be produced? What is a believable batch size?

It might help to point the finger at an organization and not a single mad scientist.

7 posted on 01/19/2004 11:36:23 PM PST by weegee
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To: Bobby777
There is no evidence that any letters were mailed prior to 9/18, a week after the 9/11 attacks. The earliest known letters (2) all have 9/18 postmarks. Prior to the mailing of the letters it had already been made known in the media where many of the hijackers lived in Florida.

Contrary to the claim of the article, the J Lo letter is largely considered a red herring. It seems the actual AMI letter was probably lost, as were the letters to a few other places in NYC.

Actually, it turns out the first people to have anthrax symptoms were from 9/18 letters sent to NYC, cutaneous symptoms that were unrecognized, BEFORE Stevens got sick in Florida.

And, of course, does one really think that AQ would go out of its way to kill as FEW people as possible with the letters? In envelopes with warnings that anthrax was contained in them? The same people that had killed as many people as they could in the 9/11 attacks? (And that's leaving aside the issue that dead men can't mail letters; of course some mysterious co-conspirator that didn't participate in the attacks could have mailed them.)
8 posted on 01/19/2004 11:37:11 PM PST by John H K
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To: flamefront
Oops, Getman's an admitted Naderite. That alone would disqualify his credibility for many reading this forum.

Perhaps others have come across this writing earlier.

9 posted on 01/19/2004 11:39:46 PM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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I haven't read this yet, but the truth doesn't care about politics. If he likes Nader, that's one thing. What happened with the anthrax is another. Let's take his research on its own merits. Have you found any actual inconsistencies, logical fallacies, or propaganda content in his writing?
10 posted on 01/19/2004 11:56:40 PM PST by risk
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To: risk
truth doesn't care about politics

I agree, after all I am the one saying this is plausible. But since you asked, while I find it interesting, the 'greendale' speculation above appears a bit of a stretch.

11 posted on 01/20/2004 12:29:23 AM PST by flamefront (To not maintain the borders is to destroy the national identity.)
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To: flamefront
does this mean the media can stop camping out in front of my post every few months?
12 posted on 01/20/2004 2:49:24 AM PST by bigghurtt (My life for Liberty, My soul for Christ....http://bigghurtt.com)
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To: risk
One apparent inconsistency between this and an an earlier post from the Washington Times http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1004849/posts concerns the quality of the mailed anthrax (specifically the mailings to the Senators).You definitely should read the link if you are interested in this.

The earlier post quotes an Iraq expert and former Clinton adviser, Laurie Mylroie, who says that the quality of the mailed spores was extraordinary and that they refused to stay on a microscope slide when scientists tried to examine them, due to their electrical charge and fineness. Interestingly, Miss Mylroie seems to think the anthrax came from Iraq.

OTOH the report above paints the anthrax material as somewhat crude.

I have no idea which of these accounts is more accurate. Either or both writers may have their own agenda.

13 posted on 01/20/2004 5:13:54 AM PST by HangThemHigh (America is inching toward the metric system.)
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To: HangThemHigh
Will do, thanks.
14 posted on 01/20/2004 5:15:17 AM PST by risk
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To: flamefront
Connecting the Dots [to al-Qaeda]

Sorry, but we need to convince the FBI to this type of thinking. They are still locked onto the guy down South.

15 posted on 01/20/2004 6:37:07 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: flamefront
Steve Hatfill is who I was thinking of.
16 posted on 01/20/2004 6:39:52 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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