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Houston native to head moon-Mars panel
Houston Chronicle ^ | January 19, 2004 | AP

Posted on 01/19/2004 12:17:20 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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We're returning to the Moon to stay. We'll survey the resources and learn how to use them and live off planet. Then we can move on to Mars.
1 posted on 01/19/2004 12:17:21 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I'm not too happy about there being no time table to go to Mars... and 2020 to return to the Moon? We were able to make it to the Moon in 8 years from a standing start back in the 1960s!

2 posted on 01/19/2004 12:20:32 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
and currently serves on Lockheed Martin Corp.'s board of directors.

Liberals are going to be screaming about "Big Aerospace" and Bush's corporate bedfellows.

3 posted on 01/19/2004 12:23:53 PM PST by The_Victor
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We're in it for the oil right?
4 posted on 01/19/2004 12:25:50 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ya' mean there are other kinds of fish besides Trout?)
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We were able to make it to the Moon in 8 years from a standing start back in the 1960s!

In 1965, NASA's budget was $24,696,000,000 in FY2002 equivalent $s.

5 posted on 01/19/2004 12:28:32 PM PST by The_Victor
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IIRC, the cost of Apollo alone was $25.4 billion, in 1960s dollars.
6 posted on 01/19/2004 12:28:51 PM PST by RoughDobermann
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I expect we will do this much faster than advertised. As one success builds on the next, excitement along with funding will grow. As it was, Congress never would have funded a manned mission to Mars. Now it's in the picture. By going to the Moon and learning to live off-planet and preparing for the Mars trip, it's viewed as the goal. As soon as the country understands how much we can benefit from lunar resources, it will be much easier to ask for more funding. Things will accelerate as the process unfolds.
7 posted on 01/19/2004 12:29:20 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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We're in it for the oil right?

Well, were in for the space programs equivalent of oil. Rocket fuel (H2 and O2) on the moon. :)

8 posted on 01/19/2004 12:31:40 PM PST by The_Victor
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Reports are that the moon contains a energy source that is called helium 3.

This enegry source is said to be able to power this planted for the next 3,000 years.

See www.infowars.com for more information on this.

9 posted on 01/19/2004 12:31:45 PM PST by Radioactive
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I can understand the fuzzy timetable on Mars, as much of the technology required has yet to be developed and will evolve with moon excursions. The Moon timetable is, I agree, to 'conservative.' I recognize the need for caution considering the fact that we need to scrap and replace the Space Shuutle program first. But, I certainly believe that we could get there by 2010, and the significance of the date would have held some science fictional irony. Additionally, a 2010 committment would have made it Democrat proof. The energy and momentum would be too strong in 2008 to be scrapped by a Democrat president. A 2020 timetable is subject to bureaucratic laziness and political redirection.


10 posted on 01/19/2004 12:32:53 PM PST by Mr.Atos (VOTE RIGHT! ...WHAT'S LEFT IS WRONG.)
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Liberals are going to be screaming about "Big Aerospace" and Bush's corporate bedfellows.

***..........In 1986, Edward Cleveland "Pete" Aldridge was training to fly on a space shuttle as a payload specialist, or non-career astronaut, right before the Challenger explosion. His flight was scrapped after Challenger erupted in a fireball during liftoff.

A few months later, Aldridge was appointed Secretary of the Air Force under President Reagan.

Aldridge has degrees in aeronautical engineering and currently serves on Lockheed Martin Corp.'s board of directors. He retired from the Defense Department last spring after working 18 years at the Pentagon.

At the time, he was serving under Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld as undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics.

___________________________________________________________________

I suppose to LIBERALS he's suspect because he's overqualified.

11 posted on 01/19/2004 12:32:53 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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/joke

I like the exploratio and potential colonization aspects as well.
12 posted on 01/19/2004 12:33:57 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ya' mean there are other kinds of fish besides Trout?)
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So true... a Rat could replace Bush in 2008 and simply scuttle the entire process. A 2010 launch date would keep that from happening.
13 posted on 01/19/2004 12:36:12 PM PST by ambrose
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Handrian's Wall! Like a forlorn Roman outpost on the edge of the frontier, this nation needs a task... a mission... a dream.

Atos

14 posted on 01/19/2004 12:37:37 PM PST by Mr.Atos (VOTE RIGHT! ...WHAT'S LEFT IS WRONG.)
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There are huge quantities of ice (water) at the poles and hydrogen in the soil (from solar wind). With it we have oxygen and water.
15 posted on 01/19/2004 12:39:32 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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We'll be setting up infrastructure this time, so it will be more than what Apollo accomplished. I believe a L1 depot will be part of what we'll set up, thus giving us greater flexibility in launching missions to the moon and eventually Mars.
16 posted on 01/19/2004 12:41:50 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Excuse my ignorance, but how could there be ice in the absence of rain?
17 posted on 01/19/2004 12:43:48 PM PST by ambrose
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Or even in 2012 or 2016. They most certainly will scrap it as they do not recognise the necessity for this dream (based on what I have heard and read since the official announcement) In fact, it would most certainly propel American leadership well beyond the realm of this world...quite literally. And one need only listen to the Left to recognize the fear that they have of American sovereignty.

Atos

18 posted on 01/19/2004 12:44:34 PM PST by Mr.Atos (My God! Its full of stars.)
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It boggles the mind to contemplate why so much in the way of resources were blown on the space station in the first place. Even back in the 60s, the general plan was to build a moon base, then on to Mars and beyond. Then we somehow found ourselves bogged down with space stations and space shuttles.

I know it was just a book/movie, but serious minds envisioned us traveling past Jupiter by now.
19 posted on 01/19/2004 12:47:03 PM PST by ambrose
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Or even in 2012 or 2016. They most certainly will scrap it as they do not recognise the necessity for this dream

It is amazing to see what has happened to the Democrat Party since the days of President Kennedy.

20 posted on 01/19/2004 12:48:26 PM PST by ambrose
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