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At the world Dry Toilet Summit, only sanity gets flushed
Union Leader ^ | 1/19/04 | MICHAEL FUMENTO

Posted on 01/19/2004 1:04:55 AM PST by kattracks

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1 posted on 01/19/2004 1:04:56 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
There is actually such a thing as a "dry toilet conference"? Don't get too silly, though. Any lib worth their salt could eventually extend the crapola argument for our current "reduced flow" toilets (the ones we flush twice) to try to make a logical argument for forcing dry toilets on us.
2 posted on 01/19/2004 3:01:10 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: kattracks
They'll pry my high-flow water using toilet from my cold, dead......

Well, ahem, they'll have a hard time convincing me to install an "inhouse".

It's doubtful that Eastern Maryland or Western Oregon would ever get dry enough to worry about it.
3 posted on 01/19/2004 3:07:29 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: kattracks
We should export are modern flush toilets that are modified to save water. The great design fails in flushing most excrement, in the meantime requiring many more water wasting flushes, a nasty plunger and many foul words. After using such a modern toilet in a recently built home. I'm so thankful that I still have the older model. Which I believe saves much more water than these useless water saver's, which just don't work. Place more than two sheets of toilet paper in them and they become plugged and very frustrating.

A dry toilet full of bugs, forget it. Most bathrooms are filthy enough no matter how well cleaned, that having the thought of bugs coming from a dry toilet, reminds me too much of the outhouses that used to be called rest areas in this country at one time. Todays children have missed a great part of the biggest technology change that ever took place in the United States of America. Although the overflowing Porta-Potties used at certain Venues may give them a vision of the past.

I find it insane for people to say that the flush toilet coupled to a well designed and maintained sewer system is a poor system. I remember the waterways in this country when sewer systems were in their infancy. Many waterways were cloudy and stunk to high heaven nearby any city. I have been back to places of my childhood where the water once was foul. It now looks extremely clean and no longer smells like diluted human sewage.

To each his own, but I'll take the 20 year old toilet that flushes, over anything else currently on the market. It's as close to perfection as most things I use on a daily basis.
4 posted on 01/19/2004 3:55:55 AM PST by herkbird
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To: kattracks
So what do you do with the dried waste?
5 posted on 01/19/2004 4:13:38 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: cspackler
"crapola argument"

An unintentional salute on your part to Sir Thomas Crapper, Chief Administrator of the London water and sewer system and inventor of the flush toilet.

After flush toilet sanitation systems were installed in London, death from Cholera and Typhoid dropped by huge numbers.

These two hardy perennials among diseases always show up at third world disasters.

Regards,

6 posted on 01/19/2004 4:15:56 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
A link for the 2003 Dry Toilet Conference. I'm still waiting to hear how one disposes of the dry waste, which I'm sure is not sanitary.
7 posted on 01/19/2004 4:25:38 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
It's basically in a pail, I believe... they may add some sort of chemical/sponge to consolidate it all into a solid gel. A couple of links suggest that there are companies who have set up "waste disposal" services much like diaper services.

But, you're right, there is no way it's more sanitary than flush tiolets. The water that the sewage treatment plants pump back out is cleaner than the bottled water you buy.
8 posted on 01/19/2004 4:34:51 AM PST by Nataku X
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To: mewzilla
You put it in your organic garden silly. (How come these tomatoes smell funny?)
9 posted on 01/19/2004 5:10:38 AM PST by rockprof
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I think you have hit upon an important point. The ones who will suffer from dry toilets being used instead of flush toilets are 'minorities'. Because liberals have such abject contempt and hatred for them, they are happy to encourage anything that makes these folks die faster. See how they encourage abortion as a preferred means of birth control, particularly among 'minorities'.
10 posted on 01/19/2004 5:23:00 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Jimmy Valentine
An unintentional salute on your part

Not completely...

11 posted on 01/19/2004 6:08:01 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: farmfriend
ping
12 posted on 01/19/2004 6:27:02 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: herkbird
We should export are modern flush toilets that are modified to save water. The great design fails in flushing most excrement, in the meantime requiring many more water wasting flushes, a nasty plunger and many foul words.

I call them "Al Gore" toilets. When we first moved into our new house, in 1996, I was talking to a neighbor. He said that after he moved into his house, he went to Home Depot to buy a bunch of plungers. The guy at HD commented, "Guess you bought a new house, eh?". It's well known that these wondertoilets don't work yet the Lefties continue to deny it.

I wonder how many of these "water saving" toilets Al Gore has in his mansion?

13 posted on 01/19/2004 6:27:26 AM PST by mikegi
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To: herkbird
To each his own, but I'll take the 20 year old toilet that flushes, over anything else currently on the market. It's as close to perfection as most things I use on a daily basis.

We installed an American Standard power-assisted flush toilet after becoming frustrated with frequent clogs with our low-flow toilet. It works great. Had it about 2 years now, and have never clogged it, and very rarely does it require 2 flushes. The only downside is the noise.

14 posted on 01/19/2004 6:41:21 AM PST by crv16
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BTTT
15 posted on 01/19/2004 7:00:11 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: rockprof
You put it in your organic garden silly. (How come these tomatoes smell funny?)

LOL. If you read the manuals for these things, even the manufacturers state that the waste is a bio hazard.

16 posted on 01/19/2004 7:05:33 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: kattracks
At the risk of being derided or flamed, I'll give Y'all some information on the "dry" or "composting" toilet. I've actually done some research on it, looking for a solution to building an indoor toilet on a remote desert mountainside where flushing is simply not an alternative.

It's not at all a simple "two-holer" like I knew at my grandma's. I believe the original concept and patent is Swedish and was given to the Clivus Multrum company.

The reason these toilets are more expensive is that they require some lateral space--a chute that has a slope in it--and should have a vertical pipe chimney that carries odors (and bugs) outside, using the venturi effect. They also have to have a door at the end of the chute for removal after the period needed for composting. However, the initial higher cost may be offset by the fact that water is not necessary or used in great amounts forever.

Human and other household waste slides down the chute and becomes part of a compost pile full of enzymes that reaches high temperatures, high enough to sanitize the waste material. This usually takes about 4-6 months, depending on the average outside temperatures.

Properly built there is no danger from disease and this type of system provides the only sanitary method to dispose of human waste in areas where water or infrastructure are not available. That's why there was a Third World conference.
17 posted on 01/19/2004 9:40:24 AM PST by wildbill
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To: kattracks; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.


If this is taxes with reprsentation
Give me taxes without representation
I much prefer a tax on tea!
Instead of everything else.

18 posted on 01/19/2004 10:03:36 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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BTTT!!!!!!
19 posted on 01/19/2004 10:33:35 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; farmfriend; Brian Allen; putupon; Jeff Head
Yes, parts of the underdeveloped world have severe water shortages but have you been to Arizona lately? Word has it they have some mighty fine flush toilets there.

Soon it will be parts of the developed world have severe water shortages , most notably the United States. The increase in immigration has caused many unmentionable difficulties that were not discussed during President Bush's 2004 "Temporary Worker Plan".

20 posted on 01/19/2004 10:49:47 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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