U.S. Troops To Pull Out Of Seoul

The Wsahington Post ^ | January 18, 2004 | NA

[neverdem]

Thanks for the pics and links. When someone uses the term "base bleed" in describing artillery projectiles does that always imply rocket assisted projectils?

[archy]

Thanks for the pics and links. When someone uses the term "base bleed" in describing artillery projectiles does that always imply rocket assisted projectils?

No. Base Bleed or *base burn* is a little different arrangement than RAP, rocket assisted projectiles, as RAP generally results in a smaller payload for the projectile.

I'll try to find you some comparison illustrations. Interestingly, it's possible to combine the two technologies as a hybrid design.

[neverdem]

That hybrid claims 110% increase in range. WOW

I wonder when the motors are timed to start. My guess is when the rounds clear the muzzle of the biggest calibers.

[neverdem]

Some links on this thread you might enjoy.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

4P3?
What ever happened to FourPapaOne?
Which one was on the east side of the road across from the Manchus after you crossed the bridge over the Imjin?

[damian85]

its up to you to find the map and do the calculations. remember,i have seen the maps and i know where the bad guys are. i don't really care about reputations. in order for those guns to range Seoul they are going to have to come alot closer. do you think we don't know what kind of guns they have? do you think we haven't ranged them and set firing data for each position? don't you think we know the capabilities of the weapon system they're using? are you naive enough to believe that they have something we don't know about? i've sat through the briefings and i know for a fact that NK guns cannot reach Seoul. anything after that i won't say. remember that just because it's on the internet doesn't make it truth. ask someone thats been there, someone that has stood a watch someone that knows what they're talking about and stop quoting the internet. good day gentlemen.

[neverdem]

I wish you a good morning Damian. May I ask you a second time, when did you serve in Korea? Does the "85" in your name refer to the year of your birth or when you served there?

I keep a very cynical mind when using the Internet, but when I find a preponderance of websites describing extended ranges, then it must be considered in light of advances in propellants and BB/RAP technology, especially when using dumb munitions for bombardment of an area.

[damian85]

i served in korea from may 99 to may 00. i then pcs'd to germany after spending some well deserved time in australia. the 85 in my name came from being the 85th damian in hotmail. i've kept it since then and thats who i am on the internet. i was born in 79. as far as technology goes you have to remember there exists a difference between what is true and what the US government will admit. what would happen if everybody in the world could get ranges and firing data as easily on the internet as you have? also we have to admit to ourselves that our government isn't different from other governments of the world. if you go to panmujon right now you'll see and hear the propaganda that NK has been spilling out for years. they are so scared of th US war machine that they are trying to entice defectors to come across. whats to say they haven't embellished their reports of equipment inventory or technology? wouldn't you if there was a big dog on the other side of the fence? anyway! don't believe what you see on the internet because i'm telling you it's not true. guess you're just gonna have to trust me on this one. i wish i could tell you everything cause then it would all make since and there wouldn't be an argument but secrets are secret for a reason. oh! and if you have any more questions please feel free to ask. i don't know who i last responded to but i kinda snapped at him or her. for that i apologize. shouldn't mix my love of the artillery with typing.

[damian85]

i have a question. what is the total amount of money that leaves the US in a year? i'm talking about money for land we use, foreign aid etc. i have neither the time or the patience to find out, i don't even know where to start looking. any ideas?

[Uncle Meat]

I don't know much of 4P1.My unit was assigned to 4P3 until it was turned over to the ROK army.This was back in '92.It was close enough to the DMZ,that you could see the N.Korean flag and the guard towers from the motorpool.

[RedlegCPT]

As far as I can remember 4P1 was across from Warrior Base. I passed it many time coming back from south of the Im Jim to return to Camp Bonifas in my other life in the Army (as an 11B at the JSA).

[metoooo]

why not move the 7000 back to the states...