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BUSH, BOOZE & JESUS
New York Post ^ | 1/16/04 | BRIAN BLOMQUIST

Posted on 01/16/2004 12:40:15 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: hosepipe

No! No! Howard Dean is the true Man of God! Howard knows the Jesus was in favor of higher marginal tax rates and would have opposed BushCo's Criminal War in Iraq!

"Hey, I was just on a conference call with Joe Trippi and the Big J.C. himself. JC says we can substitute hot fudge sundaes for the Body of Christ! Dig in, everybody!"

Sweet Jesus Christmas, this gets funnier every day.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

21 posted on 01/16/2004 4:53:49 AM PST by section9 (Major Kusanagi says, "Howard Dean: all Beer Hall, no Putsch!")
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To: seamole
I think it's interesting that the secular govenrment of Singapore made a decision to require teenagers to receive some form of religious instruction because they recognized that those who had it committed a lot less crime.
22 posted on 01/16/2004 4:58:27 AM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of AMERICAN anger.)
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To: FierceDraka
I don't think he was drinking when he was governor.
23 posted on 01/16/2004 5:01:04 AM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of AMERICAN anger.)
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To: section9
Howard Dean's Mouth:

Side 1: I'm a Christian. I love the bible. My favorite book in the New Testament is the book of Job.

Side 2: George Bush is Not My Neighbor.
24 posted on 01/16/2004 5:04:16 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: kattracks
I agree with his points.

I disagree with his methods.

I don't believe that tax dollars should be thrown into the hands of "church leaders" to use as they see fit.

While I do not favor "welfare" as a function of our federal government, the only way I would support this initiative would be if it REPLACED other expenditures.
25 posted on 01/16/2004 5:04:38 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: WhiteGuy
CHurches get things done. A dollar to a church program is a dollar that will be used for its intended purpose.
26 posted on 01/16/2004 5:06:22 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: FierceDraka
That video was already shown to be fake. He was not drinking alcohol but the media tried to say he was. Even the media had to drop the story when others at the party said he was drinking white soda and not vodka as the media tried to say. When he was drinking, he drank beer and Jim Beam.
27 posted on 01/16/2004 5:09:23 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: johnb838; FierceDraka
I don't think he was drinking when he was governor

I saw the footage when it was up at SmokingGun.com. It IS dated and it was shot when he was governor....and he most certainly was profoundly loaded. I know this doesn't jibe with his timeline on sobriety, but this tape is real and it's a hoot. W looks like he would be a blast to party with. I'm sure he was back in the day.
28 posted on 01/16/2004 5:22:12 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: johnb838
Churches get things done. A dollar to a church program is a dollar that will be used for its intended purpose.

I don't necessarily disagree with your statement.

I do suspect that this initiative, if implemented, will do nothing beyond expanding an already bloated program of wealth transfer.

I'd rather have the option of giving my money to a church of MY choice.
29 posted on 01/16/2004 5:22:57 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Dahoser
He will make no headway in my opinion. The dem plantation is too strong. They will see a decent man, agree and shake their heads when he talks. But come election day like good brainwashed robots, they will vote dem, a straight ticket.

You're so right. W was talking about how he got the federal purse opened to faith-based groups. They were applauding the money, not his faith.

Oh ye of little faith. Here you have an entire speech by argueably the most powerful man on the planet that acknowledges miracles, praises the spirit of individuals, and states point blank that God is more powerful than government. And what do you do? You presume that a group of people are so hopelessly mired where they are that even the power of God cannot alter their fate.

Well I don't believe it. If an alcoholic can quit drinking, then a black can stop voting democrat.

31 posted on 01/16/2004 6:00:39 AM PST by lafroste
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
He was NOT drinking. This has been pointed out over and over and over, especially when the tape first surfaced.
32 posted on 01/16/2004 6:07:11 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: kattracks; seamole
While I love when our leaders talk about Jesus, this faith-based initiative is a pile of garbage. Like any other giveaway it will become corrupt and soon we'll have "Muslims for Homos" signing up and filing lawsuits for their share of our money.

He's a good person at times but he just doesn't get it, and can't stop spending other people's money. It's not compassionate to covet what doesn't belong to you, it's wrong.

33 posted on 01/16/2004 6:10:57 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: section9
No! No! Howard Dean is the true Man of God! Howard knows the Jesus was in favor of higher marginal tax rates and would have opposed BushCo's Criminal War in Iraq!

Yeah, he got that straight out of the Gospel of the Apostle Job. (snicker)

34 posted on 01/16/2004 6:13:08 AM PST by alnick (The American people would rather look to the stars than hear excuses why we should not go there)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
I've got to believe he is going to make a little headway with black voters this time around.

er ... No ... With any other group, depending on your policy, ideas and sincerity, there is a chance ... This is not true of African Americans ... unless you consider 2 or 3 % headway.

35 posted on 01/16/2004 6:18:05 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
I didn't see the tape, but it seems to me that if there was anything at all to it, if there is indeed video out there of Bush drinking at a time after he said that he had quit, his political opponents would NOT be ignoring it. There's no way they would allow something like that to slide.
36 posted on 01/16/2004 6:19:56 AM PST by alnick (The American people would rather reach for the stars than reach for excuses why we shouldn't.)
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To: Wait4Truth
When he was drinking, he drank beer and Jim Beam.

Sheesh, that sounds even worse than Jim Beam and Tab . . . blecccch!

< wink >

37 posted on 01/16/2004 6:21:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: alnick; section9

St. Howard on the Bike Path to Burlington.

. . . shamelessly stolen from another Freeper.

38 posted on 01/16/2004 6:26:10 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
A "REAL" Christian is a person who folows Jesus, emitating his example. Meek, humble, forgiving (The Pope is a good one, Mother Teresa is another)....The leaders who invoke Christianity to dupe the born-again hillbilies are simply politician.
39 posted on 01/16/2004 6:30:20 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: sawyer
"Do we really want a church run society?"

That's a false choice. No religious leader in America has ever wished for, worked for, or implyed that a theocracy is a good idea. Find one!

However, the current prosciptions on religious expression are clearly unconstitutional. The attack on religion, and Christianity in particular, is beginning to meet w/ a mighty backlash. I for one pray for that day when God and the power of the Holy Spirit return four square to public life.

40 posted on 01/16/2004 6:30:32 AM PST by Pietro
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