Posted on 01/15/2004 7:29:05 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
Yes, I do blame President Bush for any TSA abuses.
As Clinton said when it comes to controlling the Executive branch organizations:
"Stroke of the pen, law of the land... kinda cool"
Executive Order could change that. Won't happen.
The pilots also complain that TSA has issued a "thinly veiled threat" to disclose personal information discovered during background investigations and subjective results of psychological evaluations in an attempt to further discourage pilots from volunteering for the program.
Executive Order could change that. Won't happen.
"I'm not going to respond to those types of statements," Rhatigan said when asked about specific allegations that are reported in the article. "I can respond to your specific questions about the program, how it's operated, what it's doing. But, as far as going back and forth like that, I'm not going to be able to participate"
President could fire Rhatigan. Won't happen.
Despite Roberts' extensive firearms training background and federal law enforcement experience, he was expelled from FFDO training on the last day of classes. He believes challenging the lock box and other TSA policies that are contrary to standard law enforcement procedures led to his dismissal. "If you got pushy and demanded some answers and called them on their double-speak," Roberts speculated, "[TSA managers] said, 'Well, you've got to go. You're a troublemaker.'"
President could fire TSA managers. Won't happen.
And there's only one reason why: Bush doesn't want pilots to have guns.
LOL!!! It's kind of cute how idealistic and extraordinarily naive some Freepers are!
Maybe take care of the whole thing by signing an executive order banning terrorism. Problem solved with the stroke of a pen!
Bush is responsible for the TSA and how it operates. If the Democrats wanted a REAL campaign issue for this election, this would have been it.
Democrats can not use this issue, since they created this insane organization, rules and regulations.
I for one, will not allow President Bush to get off-the-hook with this issue.
He can and could change how things work in our airports today, but has refused to do the right thing.
Can or cannot the president issue and executive order to TSA to not devolve the results of pilot investigations?
Can or cannot the president fire Rhatigan and the other obstructive TSA managers, or order the TSA head to fire them?
A simple yes or no will do.
Oh, another question: Why did Congress have to pass a law allowing pilots to carry guns, when the president could have done so without them?
LOL!!! Hillary?!? What are you doing here???
Who cares. What one **can** do and what is **reality** are often times two different things. Many Freepers don't understand this. Therefore they do things like vote for Mr. 0.0001% candidate thinking that they made a difference, etc.
I'll keep living in the real world, thank you.
Since you brought her up, do you think Hillary would let pilots carry guns? I don't.
What one **can** do and what is **reality** are often times two different things.
Here's reality: Even if the president doesn't care about doing the right thing and caters solely to popular opinion, there is overwhelming public support for armed pilots.
It was public pressure that caused Congress to pass the armed pilots initiative in the first place. Bush is (for once) going against popular opinion and spending his precious 'political capital' on this issue. Why would he do that? The obstruction by his inferiors is designed to protect him from the political fallout from his unpopular stance.
I'll just stick with the an executive order banning terrorism. That is just as realistic, and will accomplish just as much, or more, than your suggested methods.
That's comforting.
You'd have thought they learned their lesson after 9/11. Apparently not.
Bush has been pathetic on this issue (armed pilots).
Even tradionally anti-gun democrats have been to the right of Bush on this issue.
Notice how they made it so that pilots were "temporary federal employees" while flying armed?
This administration is simply terrified of recognizing the fundamental Right of Americans to defend themselves.
And it would free up the billions wasted on TSA and Air Marshalls for more legitimate and useful purposes.
It's interesting to observe that when it comes to screwing us over, the politicians find a way to do it a matter of minutes.
But when it comes to doing something positive, or actually recognizing our Rights, we're just supposed to shut the hell up and "wait 20 years".
I don't know what's more pathetic:
The fact that so-called conservatives are the ones screwing us over.
Or the way their defenders try to spin it.
Speaking of firing gov't employees, it didn't take Bush very long to fire a retired general working for TSA who objected to the Bush plan of putting armed air marshalls on planes that cabinet members were flying, instead of the planes that posed the biggest threat to national security.
Yup. He's no different from the rest of them. He created this agency, yet the apologists are willing to offer any excuse to absolve him of responsibility.
The fact that so-called conservatives are the ones screwing us over.
Or the way their defenders try to spin it.
Oops... missed one. What's pathetic is the lack of education and/or intelligence many Freepers have when it comes to real world situations. They go off and vote for the candidate who gets 0.0001% of the vote then proudly boast of "doing something." Or they say "change everything... RIGHT NOW" and expect it to be done. Yes, pathetic.
Yes, it does take time to undo messes that the politicians put us in. Messes that they never should have put us in in the first place. But, that's reality. The TSA is unionized. That never should have been done and will take time to change, if it ever changes.
How uneducated of us to expect politicians to follow the Constitution they took an oath to!
How stupid of us to actually expect that they keep their word.
They go off and vote for the candidate who gets 0.0001% of the vote then proudly boast of "doing something."
Some posters here insist that those candidates are "irrelevent".
Others insist that those candidates are capable of costing Bush the election.
And some posters claim both.
And as far as that 0.0001% goes, maybe you should ask Bush Sr. how quickly that number adds up when rarely a day went by where he didn't screw conservatives over.
Or they say "change everything... RIGHT NOW" and expect it to be done.
They created the TSA out of thin air. And now, we're supposed to believe that they are incapable of changing what they created?
The TSA is unionized. That never should have been done and will take time to change, if it ever changes.
And who's fault is that?
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