US Army Report Criticizes Handling of Fight Against Terror

VOA ^ | 01/13/04 | Alex Belida

[inPhase]

Yeah, if the U hired the person as faculty (professor, scholar, associate etc) then they get the official letterhead and publishing rights. Their judgement in picking you is supposed to be enough. Then there is tenure, another story.

Remember the peanut butter fusion? Nearly ruined a few schools' reputation in physics.

[Tempest]

So according to you, this would be the opinion of Columbia University:

At an anti-war "teach-in" this week, a Columbia University professor called for the defeat of American forces in Iraq and said he would like to see "a million Mogadishus" - a reference to the Somali city where American soldiers were ambushed, with 18 killed, in 1993.

The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military," Nicholas De Genova, an assistant professor of anthropology and Latino studies at Columbia University, told the audience at Low Library Wednesday night. "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus."

So I'm curious, how do you suppose that the tripe presented by Mr. Record has been adopted by the Army college. Unless you really do assume that any tripe coming out of a guest speakers mouth is the domain of the Univ.

[Tempest]

According to your original claim he doesn't even need to be hired or paid staff, but instead he just needs to attend the school.

"The students and the faculty are the university."

Geee you're going to get alot of conflicting opinions on what the school actually thinks under that formula. . .

[inPhase]

I do not know his position do you?

If he is faculty, visiting or otherwise, then he has the right to use the University cover for his work that he did there forever. There is no official someone, just the faculty group he is a part of.

When the APS (AM Phys Society) did their study of missile defense, they made the claim that the study was sponsored by the APS! They have zillions of members who do not agree with most of it if they even know about it. Same thing.

Seems to me that there is a group there AWC, that has been in this debate (similar work same group) for some time. There is another paper of theirs that is similar on Afghanistan,

[inPhase]

No reason to transfer. There are no original claims. Just the way universities are, what they stand for -- it's the sum of what the faculty stands for and to some extent the students.

And yes, the infighting in a University especially about faculty makeup, makes the Pentagon infighting, the beltway infighting look like vanilla.

[Tempest]

You don't know his position?!?!? Did you even read the post I made. I highlighted that particular professor's opinion in BOLD for ease of reference.

Would you stop dancing around the subject and acting like blindsided apologist for such ludicrous claims.

[inPhase]

Can't believ everything you read. I do not know the Joe.

But if he is faculty...

and on and on

I have not read the article, nor am I interested in such sleep inducement but

you want to get out a conclusion that won't come out in any rational way.

[inPhase]

by the way can you please define
"blindsided apologist"?
sheesh

I will not stay up too long.

[Tempest]

Blindsided Apologist?!

Oh that would be a liberal extremist that has a bad habit of apologizing for liberal ignorance by sidetracking the topic and diverting the main issue with anedoctal references and semantics. . .

[inPhase]

look again,

first
blindsided

[RustysGirl]

Appreciate the distinctions. BIG QUESTION: Why did the U.S. Army's War College publish it under its imprimatur? Why did they publish it at all? Even with all the disclaimers about whose opinions the report represents, the confusion is inevitable. Do you think the War College is trying to have it both ways? Maybe they agree with some or all of the opinions expressed in the report but, if things get too hot, want the option to point to the disclaimers? Just a thought.

[Howlin]

From what I gathered on Brit Hume's show, almost everybody that is at that "college" at one time or another pens some kind of "study."

Rumsfeld characterized it as an "op-ed" piece.

If you get a chance, watch Brit Hume's rerun.