STOP AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS

ConservativeAlerts.com ^ | 1/8/2004 | Editorial

[Johnny_Cipher]

Your curious lack of response to my observation that you apparently don't hold a lot of respect for the concepts of freedom of speech and innocent until proven guilty is noted.

Toodles.

[Capitalist Eric]

another bold, largely unpopular move by the President to do the right thing instead of doing what the polls say.

Care to explain this mysterious statement? You believe that it's good to reward criminal behavior? You believe it's in our best interests to destroy the sovereignty of the USA???

[Admin Moderator]

Knock it off!

[Texas_Dawg]

Care to explain this mysterious statement? You believe that it's good to reward criminal behavior? You believe it's in our best interests to destroy the sovereignty of the USA???

I believe in capitalism, not anti-business, ridiculously legalist federal government totalitarianism. You're clearly not much of a capitalist if you want to instantly remove 8 million workers from the American economy.

[Hand em their arse]

Unfortunatley, it loses something without sound, but all I'm doing right now is sitting here clapping. I am a newbie as well I must say but it is great to sit and read someone telling someone else to sit back and "wait for the pop". (That happens to be there gigantic head removing itself from there tiny arse)

Thanks E!!!

[MissouriForBush]

Most farmers do NOT depend on migrants. Ask my brother-in-law.

[jimt]

You're clearly not much of a capitalist if you want to instantly remove 8 million workers from the American economy.

The question is not about "workers". It's about a group of people who have no legal right to be here driving the cost of socialist services through the roof. Been to a hospital emergency room lately?

Eliminate social services for non-citizens, and eliminate "anchor babies" as a means of obtaining permanent residency or citizenship, and the objections will drop dramatically.

[mgist]

Now, get lost. I have little tolerance of fools.

You obviously have little tolerance of anything or anyone. Remember that what comes around goes around. I respect Bush's compassion for other human beings. I understand your points to a certain extent, I simply don't agree with your vacuous spirit. I hope life never places you in a similar situation that these immigrants are in. Remember that there but for the grace of God go you.

[The_Eaglet]

MCCAIN-FEINGOLD LAW LEAVES WASHINGTON A DESERTED SMOKING RUIN-Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 33 (with some opening humor)

[upcountry miss]

This was one of the least helpful threads on this subject that I have read in a long time. Reply # 49 was typical of the ugly vitriolic name-calling that these threads end in. I, too, am very concerned over rewarding illegal behavior. Something must be done as previous presidents have just avoided the issue. If we don't open a dialogue, the situation justs gets worse. Look how the number of illegal immigrants is just boomeranging! I don't have a REASONABLE,WORKABLE answer as obviously no one else on this thread has, but name-calling and hate-filled statements accomplish nothing. We need to send reasoned, thoughtful messages to our President and Congressmen.
My main objection to any kind of amnesty is rewarding illegal behavior. I feel we MUST stop allowing Mexican criminals to crowd our jails while allowing our own criminals to escape justice by crossing the border and doing nothing to stem the flood of illegals taxing our welfare system. I'm sure other Freepers have many more legitimate, pressing concerns, but without some dialogue and eventual action, nothing gets accomplished.
By the way, I am not a newbie and why does this fact matter so much to some Freepers?

[Texas_Dawg]

The question is not about "workers". It's about a group of people who have no legal right to be here driving the cost of socialist services through the roof. Been to a hospital emergency room lately?

That side of the coin is not good, but the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants rarely use these services, if at all, while at the same time they provide a very vital component to our growing economy. We should just make it easier for them to come here legally. If we spent billions of dollars to round them up and send them all home and then let 8 million others come in their place, legally, would you support that?

[Mamzelle]

It's nice that people stopped to help--but it'll be your insurance company that gets the real hit, and then they'll hit you back with higher premiums.

[jimt]

That side of the coin is not good, but the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants rarely use these services, if at all, while at the same time they provide a very vital component to our growing economy. We should just make it easier for them to come here legally. If we spent billions of dollars to round them up and send them all home and then let 8 million others come in their place, legally, would you support that?

They don't use these services?

"In a city like Houston, where an estimated one-quarter of indigent patients are undocumented immigrants, denying them publicly funded health care services would mean turning away a lot of patients in need of care -- a scenario that holds little appeal for physicians."

---snip---

"As far as Ben Taub is concerned, its emergency department is already stretched to its limit, says the hospital's chief of staff, James Mattox, MD. The 300 to 350 emergency patients Ben Taub sees each day likely would double if undocumented immigrants were cut off from care provided by the hospital's specialty and community-based clinics, leaving emergency care as their only option, he says." From here.

The fact is they definitely use the heck out of these services, daily.

What I object to is importing more people who'll ride in the wagon.

[MD_Willington_1976]

Well I guess I will just have to change my last name to Gonzales and I'm in YeeHaw...

Thats pretty lame, I have legally being trying to become a citizen, I have been a legal resident in the USA now for 4 years, and this comes as a slap in the face to me and my wife...

I truly hope that the Guberment is enjoying the Non-immigrant alien tax money I have been giving them each year...It's a damn good scam they've got going...

[Texas_Dawg]

You didn't answer my question though:

If we spent billions of dollars to round them up and send them all home and then let 8 million others come in their place, legally, would you support that?

[Teacher317]

Discussion of the "possibility" of something doesn't encourage a given behavior

JEEZ! Have you never heard of a quaint little concept called, "Hope"?

Hell, have you ever heard of FLIRTING?!?! Never had a girl "tease" you? Never seen a girl get showered with gifts, praise, and attention all on the barest of indications that they guy might... someday... get somewhere with her?

How about the lottery and other forms of gambling ("You could win!!")?

Now try a million other situations where one person is very hopeful (like, oh, say, destitute people living in a nation of squalor on the border of an incredibly wealthy nation), and that hope is encouraged by what they see, hear, or read... still no effect on that person?

[kellynla]

Well Doc, you are not alone. The Bush plan is a slap in the face to every person and their families who have immigrated to America legally. But with your support and everyone else who is against this plan and feels that the Bush Administration should enforce the immigration laws on the books, we shall overcome! What the Bushies and those who support such a plan fail to realize is that this program pulls down the socio-economic base of all working Americans and rewards illegal behavior to the detriment and expense of those who obey the rules. Semper Fi, Kelly