Real Message of The Bush Amnesty

The American Conservative ^ | 1/9/2004 | Pat Buchanan

[JohnGalt]

With the filing deadlines for the Republican primaries having passed and no GOP opponent, with no Third Party challenger from the Right, and with Dean the likely Democratic nominee, Rove knows conservatives are boxed in. In the old cliché, “The conservatives have nowhere else to go.”

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[Dane]

you can kiss the old America goodbye

Oh no Pat says were all doomed. Doooommmed!(/sarcasm)

I think that Pat is the only person Dr. Norman Vincent Peale(writer of the book "The Power of Positive Thinking) would say is doomed to terminal negativity.

[narby]

If George Bush’s amnesty for between 8 million and 14 million illegal aliens is enacted, you can kiss the old America goodbye.

Just had to stop right there. Anyone who thinks we can withstand the international outrage if we deported 10 or 15 million people out into the Sonoran desert is an idiot.

Oh, yes, this was written by Buchanon. Should have known.

We attacked, defeated, and destroyed the last country to send away a few million people of another race on rail cars. And if the US did the same, we'd deserve the same fate.

[Cyber Liberty]

Ahhhhh......Finally! A voice of reason in all this insanity. I knew Pitchfork Pat would come to the nation's rescue.

[quidnunc]

Dane wrote: I think that Pat is the only person Dr. Norman Vincent Peale(writer of the book "The Power of Positive Thinking) would say is doomed to terminal negativity.

Will Rogers never met Pat Buchanan.

[Cyber Liberty]

We attacked, defeated, and destroyed the last country to send away a few million people of another race on rail cars. And if the US did the same, we'd deserve the same fate.

I just liked the way you said it, so I repeated it. Just how the heck are we supposed to move millions of men, women and children in a matter of months? Cattle-cars?

[JohnGalt]

Hear that, all?

According to 'narby', if you support expelling illegal aliens you are no better than the Nazis.

[joesnuffy]

He passed on protecting the first ammendment (CFR)
Promised to sign any law that came to him violating the second (AWB)
Why would an invasion of illegal aliens be a big deal?

[The Old Hoosier]

Anyone who thinks we can withstand the international outrage if we deported 10 or 15 million people out into the Sonoran desert is an idiot.

Funny, lots of people would say that about our unilateral invasion of Iraq. Do you agree with them?

Can international outrage get any worse than it is now?

[KantianBurke]

As there must be billions of people willing to come and work for a fraction of our minimum wage—and exploit our social safety net—the number who could come under the Bush guest-worker program is almost infinite.

Imagine a car wash that employs 40 African-American, Latino, and white working-class folks at $8 an hour each. A new car wash down the street opens up, offering 40 new jobs at $5.15 an hour. No Americans apply. Under Bush’s proposal, that employer would be free to go to Asia, Africa, and Latin America, round up workers, and bring them in.

The new car wash with its foreign workers then drives the old car wash with its American workers out of business. Taxpayers are then forced to subsidize the newly unemployed—and pay for the medical care, food stamps, rent supplements, welfare, and schooling of all the new immigrants and their families, provide legal services when they get in trouble and pay for more cops to police their neighborhoods.

And every child born of a guest worker would, under our 14th Amendment, become an American citizen, automatically entitled to all the benefits of citizenship. Meanwhile, Bush’s amnesty will do nothing to halt the illegal invasion that continues to this hour. If you would know what America’s social, cultural, and fiscal future will look like, take a ride through Los Angeles, capital of Mexifornia.

[Dane]

Funny, lots of people would say that about our unilateral invasion of Iraq. Do you agree with them?

Sometimes I think Pat is outraged that Churchill and FDR ousted hitler.

[The Old Hoosier]

Millions would go home on their own if we suddenly became serious about enforcement, punishment, and deportation. In fact, if we announced massive sting efforts well in advance, millions would leave in advance.

[SolutionsOnly]

I'm not so sure we'd be 'kissing America goodbye', we'll probably go through a Canadian one-nation, two cultures type of Balkanization phase before we implode.

[WhiteGuy]

“If Bush won’t enforce our laws, let’s elect a president who will.”


I'm in.

AMERICANS FIRST

[The Old Hoosier]

Well, if you're wrong, ad hominem works.

[auboy]

The real threats to America’s survival do not come from the Sunni Triangle. They come from within

yeah, yeah, Pat. From jealous, bitter people like you! I don't believe your BS, and I don't like you. Compared to George Bush, you're a nit.

[swarthyguy]

Remember the outrage when Clinton had mass swearing in at a stadium.

One test is what would the reaction have been if Clinton had made this speech.

Too bad this essentially devalues citizenship. slaps legal and would be legal immigrants with a steel bat.

At least be honest and call it a damn AMNESTY.

Enough Clintonian semantic hair splitting.

No wonder Dick Morris loves this triangulation BS.

[Dane]

Imagine a car wash that employs 40 African-American, Latino, and white working-class folks at $8 an hour each. A new car wash down the street opens up, offering 40 new jobs at $5.15 an hour. No Americans apply.

Pretty big leap there saying no Americans would apply. From that starting point your whole chicken little scenario falls apart.

[Cyber Liberty]

Negative. Not fast enough. Would take years, and we want "them" outta here yesterday.