DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER

Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

[Poohbah]

I never said it would net "most" aliens. I just said it would be a step in the right direction.

Please reread what I wrote: I said "most of your illegal aliens." I.e., most of the apprehensions would come from traffic stops. You'd still have a tiny minority of illegal aliens apprehended, and that number would decline.

Perhaps then we'll need a law stating that one must commit X number of moving violations per hundred miles or be pulled over for driving in a suspiciously innocent manner. (That's sarcasm, by the way.)

You seem exceptionally touchy this morning, I'll assume you're angry at something somebody previously said and it's carrying over.

My ire tends to increase in direct proportion to the stupidity I run into--and stupidity has been in excess supply of late on FR.

[SerpentDove]

>>My ire tends to increase in direct proportion to the stupidity I run into--and stupidity has been in excess supply of late on FR.
<<

I'll overlook your unneccessary insult and hopefully meet you later in a more amiable mood.

As I said before, take care.

[kevao]

One thing is for sure: you're forced to pray that Bush loses the election, because he won't owe you a damn thing if he wins.

Well, it's not like Bush has spent the last three years paying back his conservative base for his victory in 2000, is it?

[Poohbah]

Well, it's not like Bush has spent the last three years paying back his conservative base for his victory in 2000, is it?

It's not like the conservative base actually gave him the victory in 2000, is it?

[SerpentDove]

bttt

[Poohbah]

Well, it's not like Bush has spent the last three years paying back his conservative base for his victory in 2000, is it?

Tax cut

End ABM Treaty

Killed Kyoto Treaty

Restored Reagan's policy re: abortion funding

Tax cut

Banned partial-birth abortion

OK, none of these were conservative issues, were they?

[kevao]

Yes, the tax cuts were fantastic -- both the refund and the marginal rate cut. Unfortunately, our runaway budget deficit and burgeoning national debt have led to a sharp decline in the US$. So while my marginal rate has been reduced a few percentage points, the purchasing power of my dollars has actually fallen by 10% vis-a-vis the Euro in the past year. That's a net loss.

All the other Bush initiatives you mentioned were positive, too. But if this amnesty proposal makes it into law, I'm afraid they're virtually meaningless. After all, I'm sure Nero did some positive things for Rome, too -- before burning the place to the ground.

This isn't hyperbole on my part, either. I sincerely believe that this amnesty will, within a relatively short period of time, rend the very fabric of the U.S.

[Poohbah]

This isn't hyperbole on my part, either. I sincerely believe that this amnesty will, within a relatively short period of time, rend the very fabric of the U.S.

One can sincerely believe hyperbole--but it is still hyperbole.

[Poohbah]

And the central point is that conservatives have gotten a LOT from this President despite not bothering to show up in 2000. There was more conservative turnout for Bob Frickin' DOLE than there was for Bush.

[kevao]

Just who do you think made up all the signs and organized all the protests in November/December 2000? The moderates? No. It was this party's conservative activist base.

[SerpentDove]

>>Just who do you think made up all the signs and organized all the protests in November/December 2000? The moderates? No. It was this party's conservative activist base.
<<

And I was one of them. I helped very much with the grassroots effort last time around. Not this time, brother.

[Poohbah]

Just who do you think made up all the signs and organized all the protests in November/December 2000? The moderates? No. It was this party's conservative activist base.

If they'd bothered to f***ing vote on Election Day, the election wouldn't have gone to the courts. And the Supreme Court didn't change it's decision because of the protests. That makes the protests not only unnecessary, but pointless.

[kevao]

Your hatred of conservatives sounds awfully familiar. Is that you, Karl Rove, hiding behind the Poohbah screenname?

[cajun-jack]

sounds like a great plan to me....now what political "ho" can we get that has the testicular fortitude" to submit this for a vote??

[kevao]

Tax cut, End ABM Treaty, Killed Kyoto Treaty, Restored Reagan's policy re: abortion funding, Tax cut, Banned partial-birth abortion

OK, none of these were conservative issues, were they?

I thought these were Republican issues. If these are solely conservative issues, then what the hell do you non-conservative Republicans stand for?

[Poohbah]

Your hatred of conservatives sounds awfully familiar. Is that you, Karl Rove, hiding behind the Poohbah screenname?

Nope. I am a conservative. I don't pretend that we are the "base" when 4,000,000 more conservatives voted for Bob Dole than for George Bush. That fact places us in a bit of a bind--namely, Bush doesn't owe us a damn thing, and he can ask us "What have YOU done for me lately?"

You may not like it, but patronage is the mother's milk of politics. Politicians are quick reward their friends. They are slow to grant boons to those who don't help them. Bush's support for conservative initiatives is actually rather atypical.

My "hatred" of conservatives is a hearty and healthy dislike for those who have talked much and done little. When you have to cite the protests--the protests that could have been avoided had the "conservative base" actually shown up--as evidence of what conservatives did for Bush, you merely underline the fact that we conservatives have done very little for him, but constantly demand a great deal in return.

[kevao]

we conservatives have done very little for him, but constantly demand a great deal in return.

But, Poohbah, is it really demanding such a great deal that Bush not reward with an amnesty people who have demonstrated such utter contempt for our country by trampling our immigration laws?

There are many millions of people around the world who have been playing by the rules, patiently waiting in long lines to come to this country legally, having faith that their patience will be rewarded by the U.S. The amnesty just spits in the face of those who would respect our laws. It's a travesty.

[Poohbah]

But, Poohbah, is it really demanding such a great deal that Bush not reward with an amnesty people who have demonstrated such utter contempt for our country by trampling our immigration laws?

Do you have a better proposal that can actually be implemented? Speak up, lad!

[SerpentDove]

Intermission.

[Pagey]

After 9/11, I gave up hope that our borders would ever be sealed. That was the perfect time to shut them once and for all, with troops stationed everywhere on the borders, both Mexican and Canadian.

That's exactly what I thought, though I actually would've been satisfied w/ just the Mexican border. That was the time for it to occur, and I've (very reluctantly) forced myself to accept the fact that 'sealed borders' will never happen. Somewhere down the line, we'll find out what the real deal made was between Fox and Bush. Since Vicente Fox said in 2000, that he looks forward to open borders w/ Canada and the USA, it irks me to think that Globalism has been encroaching faster than I ever admitted to myself in this, our Northern Hemisphere. I'm darn glad though to see the E.U. bickering/publicly saying 'this won't work'/not following the rules they've set forth for themselves, that makes me smile.