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Posted on 01/08/2004 1:10:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
"Some of the jobs being generated in America's growing economy are jobs American citizens are not filling."
Usually, with capitalism, the more dangerous, hard-to-fill and "undesirable" a job is, the more it pays. If no one here wants to dig ditches, then eventually people who need ditches dug, would pay premium wages...or just do it themselves.
With the fact that these illegals escape to Mexico for a month or so out of the year to escape paying income taxes, is proof enough they are looking for an easy dollar and could give a hoot less about America.
Now, many of the illegals are working at high paying jobs in construction, etc. You can't tell me that if there was an job opening in construction that there isn't an American anywhere who would fill it. The jobs would all get filled, IF the employer would make it worth their while...after all, minimum wage is better than no wage at all.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:32:52 PM PST
by
FrankR
To: Happy2BMe
Now you understand!
Bush will deal with the illegals and those who fail to register, HARSHLY.
After the enactment of this policy, any remaining illegals will be considered to represent a potential security threat to our great nation.
Here's the plan, but remember, Bush inherited this mess, so while it isn't perfect, it is a great beginning. Follow along:
1. Provide a means for those aliens already working in legitimate jobs for American companies or private families, and who truly deserve an American future, to properly obey and respect our laws, and let us also be kind to their families too. These are the high-profile sympathy cases that could destroy the GOP presidency if lumped in with the worst of the aliens. These hard luck stories will otherwise fill the airwaves, and many GOP and independent voters will feel the legitimate pain and suffering of such refugees. Call them the "Elians";
2. Provide a more efficient means for the next wave of good people to apply legitimately for access before they too become illegals. Call them the "Pre-emptives";
3. Bear down HARD on the remaining illegals, and begin to treat them as that: ILLEGAL. Without remorse and without shame, get rid of them. Call them the "Osamas". For the first time, given the cover of a legitimate and efficient access pathway, THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR.
So, keep the Elians, work with the Pre-Emptives, and dump the Osamas.
Come now, Freepers, you can get there, if you try.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:33:21 PM PST
by
Stallone
(Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
To: kevao
I don't cower, neither do I engage in trashing the opposition....I try to win minds over by deductive logic....failing that, I am lost.
Best, IA
To: FrankR
after all, minimum wage is better than no wage at all.If by "no wage at all" you mean welfare, you might be wrong about that.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:35:25 PM PST
by
kevao
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Thanks ATOMIC_PUNK...keep the pictures coming.
To: fightu4it; international american
"I've got a proposal for Limbaugh and Hannity. The next time you have a caller on the phone who thinks it's alright for these illegals to keep comming into this country, interrupt them after they have spoken only a few words. Then ask them to hang on while you take a call that just came in. When you return to them, repeat what you have just done and keep interrupting them and asking them to hang on while you take a call that just came in. When they finally get pissed off and start letting you know about it, you can simply say "oh, I didn't think you had a problem with people jumping to the front of the line." Brilliant Yes, that's it.
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Immigrants, Lining up at US Embassy Overseas in Respect of Our Laws and Order
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ILLEGAL Immigrants, Showing No Respect of Our Laws or Order
Now, WHICH ones do YOU respect and which ones should be given "rights." It clear which ones President Bush respects and has compassion for.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:40:41 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
To: All
Wait a minute.
What is this deafening array of yells from our extremists about "the failure to enforce our immigration laws"? What sense does this make from self proclaimed conservatives? How many employers providing work to these illegals are conservatives themselves? Since when did conservatives go begging to government to police themselves? Why are not employers complying with the laws? Are more tax evaders prosecuted than illegals deported? No. Why? Because the majority of Americans try to comply with the law.
This is absurd, this turning to the government to solve problems. Why not contact employers who are inviolation directly? If you have evidence of the violation, submit it to the Immigration service or your Congressman.
This is laughable that conservatives have chosen to look to the government to solve this problem. Aren't we supposed to solve most of our own? Why would conservatives want an expansion of bureaucracy to break into homes in the barrios to ship people with infant US citizens out of the country.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:42:08 PM PST
by
Owen
To: AmericanInTokyo
It cost me 12,000 and 14 months to get my chinese wife over here. I am an anglo by the way. Also, she has a degree in nursing from a california university. The problem did not emanate from Bejing... it did from HERE!!
To: ATOMIC_PUNK; Happy2BMe
And a few of those hard working mexicans just working their fingers to the bone. That picture of the mexicans hanging around on street corners can't be true...I thought they were all here to do JOBS AMERICANS WONT' DO.
To: Owen
I think some of us should, just to see what happens, (and only if you see this) call an INS (Dept of Homeland Security Office) and tell them you have seen suspected illegal aliens, and you would like to report it. And what will they do.
In view of the President's speech, I wonder what their response will be.
See how he has screwed things up even more?! I'll bet local law enforcement is wondering, what the heck do we do now with illegals that we catch. Let them go? Refer them to INS? What a crazy situation. Not to mention this,
![](http://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/040107/portada/imagenes/portada.jpg)
in the Mexican papers yesterday (top headline) literally inviting even MORE illegal border crossing. Sick.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:47:15 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
To: Happy2BMe
This needs to be hit hard!
Calls and Fax's to our representatives need to be made, but that is not enough.
This is an election year!
I strongly encourage everyone who wants to see this travesty fail to get involved with the formal party structure.
The party depends on it's grassroots organizations.
Most states will be having their county precinct meetings very soon.
If you attend you can submit and vote on items for the party platform.
Attendance may also make you eligible to attend the state party convention, where you get to vote on what stays in the platform.
You see where I am headed here?
The national platform is compiled from the state platforms.
If enough state platforms contain a strong plank against this "amnesty" by that or any other name, the national platform should do the same.
If we can get that plank passed conservatives in congress will have to take note of it, which should insure certain defeat for any amnesty bill.
We must become more active in the party structure in order to move it back toward honest conservatism. This amnesty is not honest, of conservative!
I am tired of being taken for granted, I feel like I am being given a choice between a broken arm and a broken leg, with the party telling me I have to support them no matter what they do in order to avoid two broken legs later!
And yes, I am attending my local republican party precinct meeting tonight.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:47:51 PM PST
by
Richard-SIA
(Nuke the U.N!)
To: Stallone
#1.= Amnesty
#2.= Make it eaiser for them to immigrate.
#3.= See #1.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:47:54 PM PST
by
fightu4it
(conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
To: Owen
"Why not contact employers who are inviolation directly? If you have evidence of the violation, submit it to the Immigration service or your Congressman."
You must be joking. The employers know they have nothing to fear, and haven't had for 18 years. You might as well shoot yourself in the foot!!
To: Owen
>>Why are not employers complying with the laws?
Why should they? When was the last time you saw the head of MArriott or Hilton doing a perp walk for hiring illegals?
To: AmericanInTokyo
I have no compassion or respect for those who break the law.
To: Richard-SIA
Good.
And, if you have a GOP Congressman, call his/her office in a neutral tone, and ask what his position is on the President's immigration plan. If waffling or positive, give 'em the shaft, if opposed, tell them you will get EVERY ONE OF YOUR VOTING FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO RETURN THEM TO CAPITOL HILL ON ACCOUNT OF IT.
Not only political platforms (which mean nothing when it comes to policy) but also the reelection fortunes of the congresscritters. Key.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:50:53 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
To: Owen
Ever try to turn in an illegal? Ever try to call the cops when you witnessed phony ss and dl lic? You are the criminal, and you are under scrutiny.
To: Happy2BMe
Illegal, what does it mean....to me it means Illegal, to Bush and friends it means something else.....I voted for George and likely will again but this is about as bad as it gets.....Illegal is illegal.
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posted on
01/08/2004 2:51:28 PM PST
by
JamesA
(Stand up, stand together or die as one.)
To: Blzbba
Amen. Principles over Party.
Too many people here seem to give Bush
a blank-check/endorsement of anything the man does,
simply because he's Republican or because he's
"not Clinton". Meanwhile, Bush's increased
gov't spending and size increases
make him less & less of a fiscal conservative.
Amen again there Blzbba !
The similarities between Clintonoids
and BushBots , here ,
has been Hilarious at times !
I've pointed it out a time or two myself ,
only to be hooted at by the NeoCons here .
......THUNDER.....
To: AmericanInTokyo
Not sick...immoral.
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