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Plan has 'fatal flaw,' congressman says
Rocky Mountain News ^
| 01/08/04
| Ann Imse and M.E. Sprengelmeyer
Posted on 01/08/2004 5:01:57 AM PST by T-Bird45
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To: GigaDittos
Too bad it's unconstitutional, but I would divide California into two states. LOL okay as long as it's East and West, not North and South. West Cali should consist of all the coastal counties from Los Angeles to San Francisco, plus Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa. East Cali is the rest. I'm ok with that. Just please, please don't make it North and South because both will be truly terrible.
Coming up next, East Cali passes shall-issue conceal-carry law...
To: paper avalanche
If it walks like amnesty and quacks like amnesty, it's amnesty.
Amnesty by any other name would stink as sour. (Apologies to Bill S.)
Don't **** on my head and tell me it's raining.
(I'm working on more)
Hb
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posted on
01/08/2004 10:53:54 AM PST
by
Hoverbug
To: Hoverbug
If it walks like amnesty and quacks like amnesty, it's amnesty. Nope. An amnesty is a one-time grant of citizenship or greencard to anyone who's been here for a while, given because they've been here for a while. That is not what's being proposed because (1) it is not a grant of citizenship or greencard (2) it doesn't matter if you've been here for a while, only that you have a qualifying job (3) it's not a one-time thing (4) it doesn't confer a permanent status.
Repeat after me... "temporary worker permit".
Y'all take it easy now, ok?
To: GigaDittos
No MEChA just wants "their" country back. Turn off the paranoia there for a second. The moonbats at MEChA are a totally fringe group even among hispanics. Nobody wants to recreate Mexico in So Cal, that's what they went here to *get away from* in the first place. What most of them want is to be alloweed to work insanely hard at really sucky jobs so they and their children can have a better life... better in all the ways in which the good ol' US of A is better than Mexico, most of which have nothing to do with economics of welfare or whatever. They like it here just fine the way it is, thank you.
To: paper avalanche
Yeah right, and I'm the King of England.
You go ahead and spin away. Maybe you'll hook the stupid ones.
Next time you get pulled over by a cop, patiently explain to him that you weren't speeding, per say, you were just going faster than the speed limit.
Good luck with that.
Take care,
Hb
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posted on
01/08/2004 4:08:56 PM PST
by
Hoverbug
To: T-Bird45
Needless to say, anyone can equally claim that Tancrepo's opposition to dealing effectively with illegal immigration is just an 'election year ploy.'
To: T-Bird45
Bush to Americans: "No more illegals."
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posted on
01/08/2004 4:17:13 PM PST
by
Visalia
To: paper avalanche
Excellent point. Anyone can point out any fringe nutcase group in order to instill fear in others. People who are afraid are more easily manipulated. Perhaps immigrants are asked to look at the KKK or Nazi Party crackpots and are told that all of America is against them, just as some come around here and point to MEChA or Aztlan as representative of immigrant aspirations. It's all just baloney if it weren't dangerous for the ill will it fosters.
To: ETERNAL WARMING; Happy2BMe
BUMPING for reference.
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posted on
01/08/2004 8:02:44 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: paper avalanche
Umm... Rosie, have you actually looked at how immigrants who have been here for a while or their children vote? All you gotta do is look at the voting districts that border Mexico. Red districts they ain't. Any % vote toward Republicans, or consertative candidates, that is less than 50% is a net loss, no matter what you say. Besides, looking at illegals as potential voters is an insult to citizens of this nation, a violation of the law, and a reward for law breakers. California's huge budget deficit proves that the border jumpers are large net consumers of welfare and other "free" social services.
There are simple ways to have illegals "self-deport". The easiest is to make it impossible for them to work here through confiscation of Mexican consular cards and huge penalties for employers of illegals, which is already provided for in law and only needs to be enforced.
To: T-Bird45
Their phones should be smoking by now from having so many phone calls.
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posted on
01/09/2004 3:56:55 PM PST
by
american spirit
(ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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